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MattG 09-10-2013 03:59 PM

C&R Heat Exchanger for '69 Camaro
 
I just ordered one of these from Paul at C&R and it shows a lot of promise!

http://www.semashow.com/press/2013/0...for-69-camaros

Paul spent a good amount of time explaining to me how they did the R&D on it and will be the quality we expect from C&R. It will bolt into the stock radiator support with no mods to the latch assembly and fits in conjunction with a Vintage Air Condenser (condenser on outside with exchanger in between).

Should have it in soon with lots of pics. This should be a welcome fix for those of us running a supercharger in a first gen Camaro!

snappytravis 09-10-2013 09:46 PM

Should have mine tomorrow, can't wait there quality is top notch!

paulk68 12-01-2013 03:42 PM

any of you guys ever get this?

snappytravis 12-01-2013 04:27 PM

I did, It is in, need to mod the hood latch a little but it fits good.

Bmf5150 05-26-2014 11:53 PM

What are the cost on these ??

rocketrod 05-27-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmf5150 (Post 552702)
What are the cost on these ??

Summit Racing sells them, p/n 56-00010 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ci...t/model/camaro

MattG 05-29-2014 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snappytravis (Post 519884)
I did, It is in, need to mod the hood latch a little but it fits good.

Same here, quality piece and well worth the cost.

http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/y...psb7ab7603.jpg
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps1b19776d.jpg
http://i791.photobucket.com/albums/y...psff7472ba.jpg

Bmf5150 06-05-2014 01:24 AM

Very nice, think I will use this with my kenne bell.. Wonder if it will fit classic auto air condenser as well??

MattG 09-17-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketrod (Post 552858)
Summit Racing sells them, p/n 56-00010 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ci...t/model/camaro

Rod,
Tried sending you a PM, but your inbox is full!

waynieZ 10-25-2014 11:41 PM

Is this bigger than the factory heat exchanger?

snappytravis 10-26-2014 10:20 PM

I am not sure what you mean by the factory one, it .mounts in front of ac condenser. It is pretty good sized I think bigger that what you would see in a ctsv caddilac. I ended up using a pump from lingenfelter for mine and purchasing several hoses with 90 degree bends worked pretty good.

waynieZ 10-28-2014 04:08 PM

Yes I meant Caddy or ZL1. I guess I didn't articulate my question very well :bang:

snappytravis 10-28-2014 05:32 PM

I thought that was what you meant, I think they may be a tad bit bigger, Just curious how much is a zl1 or Cadillac exchanger?

snappytravis 10-28-2014 05:35 PM

afco zl1 heat exhanger
 
http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...nger-80283.htm

I think this style is not as tall but thicker. I like the fans,, have to build some brackets to mount. The cr racing on bolts together pretty good.

waynieZ 10-29-2014 12:01 AM

Yes the C&R looks like a nice easy set up to use. I had just seen that advertisement you posted earlier tonight for the CTS V

steery 10-29-2014 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snappytravis (Post 577762)
http://www.phastekperformance.com/20...nger-80283.htm

I think this style is not as tall but thicker. I like the fans,, have to build some brackets to mount. The cr racing on bolts together pretty good.

I've got one of these for my 69 Camaro LSA conversion. Won't be installed for a few weeks though.

cwylie 12-05-2014 06:48 AM

Anyone up and running with one of these yet?

MattG 12-05-2014 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 584295)
Anyone up and running with one of these yet?

I've had mine running for 4 months now and it does a great job. My tuner says it controls inlet temps much better than the stock Magnuson heat exchanger. He was impressed to say the least!

cwylie 12-06-2014 03:25 PM

Do you have the part number for that vintage air condenser by chance?

waynieZ 12-06-2014 09:33 PM

Does anyone have pictures of one of these going in or installed? sure would appreciate seeing them..

chassis crafters 12-07-2014 11:23 AM

hey guys we installed this same unit in the 69 lsa Camaro we done for a customer. and its got to be one of the best pieces we have installed to date .it fits great and accepts vintage air .we use phil cook for are salesman great guy. just ordered one for the 63 vette we are doing with a LSA

cwylie 12-08-2014 08:48 PM

What have you all used for a reservoir on these?

snappytravis 12-08-2014 09:15 PM

That's the tricky part, I looked and looked, I think a person could use a reservoir out of a magnuson kit for 5th gen Camaro. It is small and mounts to the firewall, I however figured that the more capacity I had for coolant the better it may cool.

So I looked up canton racing and ordered a blem tank( small weld splatter on the aluminum) It is a batter box style tank for a mustang. I built a frame much like a battery box out of 1 inch angle. I mounted it to the radiator support and to the inner fender on the passengers side.

I then went and bought several different length 90 degree bend hoses, say 4 inches, then 14 or 16 or 18. They run down between the tank and radiator and under the radiator support to the front of vehicle where the intercooler pump is mounted. then out of pump into the heat exchanger.

I ordered a pump from lingenfelter it had the harness and everything with it.
Good luck, Hope I helped you out,

https://www.cantonracingproducts.com...5-10-MUSTANGS/

look up gates 28474 hose. You can get a different ones with various lengths, then cut to fit your setup.

cwylie 12-15-2014 04:34 PM

How did you all mount the bottom bracket? I noticed they spacers and bolts included with the kit and I assume they want you to drill through the core support but there were no instructions.

snappytravis 12-15-2014 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 585542)
How did you all mount the bottom bracket? I noticed they spacers and bolts included with the kit and I assume they want you to drill through the core support but there were no instructions.

I believe I did and ran the bolts through the back side. Spacers just keep from crushing radiator support. Hope this helps

waynieZ 12-27-2014 10:26 PM

Travis which pump did you get from Lingenfelter? I just got the Stewart EMP pump to use in my car, and last week I called C&R to talk about the Heat exchanger.

snappytravis 12-28-2014 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 587167)
Travis which pump did you get from Lingenfelter? I just got the Stewart EMP pump to use in my car, and last week I called C&R to talk about the Heat exchanger.

This one, I mounted it on the bottom of the rad support on passengers side. I used one of the bolts that runs through the bottom of the heat exchanger and mounted the pump horizontal with the band clamp that comes with it. Then ran my wiring down the pas inner fender. Then 5 miles of hoses! If you need pictures pm me you cell and I can text you a few next time I go to the shop. I know they make higher volume pumps I just didn't think I really needed one with the volume of coolant I have in my reservoir and the size of the heat exchanger.

http://www.lingenfelter.com/mm5/merc...gh=#.VKAi1B0MA

waynieZ 12-28-2014 01:16 PM

I grabbed the one I have because I saw it on E Bay cheap and figured I needed one anyway.

waynieZ 01-12-2015 10:37 PM

Well men my Heat Exchanger came in today. Very Nice piece.

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps2a971697.jpg

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps6b01d9b4.jpg

cwylie 01-13-2015 08:01 AM

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Hey I noticed the hood latch clears the heat exhanger but hits the top lip on the a/c condenser. How did you all resolve this? Does cutting the lip off the condenser give you enough clearance? Should I worry about messing up the condenser if I cut that lip off?

snappytravis 01-13-2015 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 589483)
Hey I noticed the hood latch clears the heat exhanger but hits the top lip on the a/c condenser. How did you all resolve this? Does cutting the lip off the condenser give you enough clearance? Should I worry about messing up the condenser if I cut that lip off?

I think it says in the directions,, that you go like seven holes in on each side notch it out. I did that and then the latch still hit when you went to pop the safety on the latch. So you can do two things. Either trim the latch down where it will hit the condenser. Buy a vw style latch and catch for the hood and build a plate or order one from ironworks I believe sells one. The only other choice would be hood pins. I am not big on them but it may be a simple solution. I think some grinding on the back of hood latch will take care of it.

Bmf5150 09-10-2015 01:13 AM

Anyone have dimension of this heat exchanger??

rocketrod 09-10-2015 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmf5150 (Post 616154)
Anyone have dimension of this heat exchanger??

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ci...t/model/camaro

Straight from the link above, but I think the got the height and width dimensions crossed.
Width (in): 26.000 in.
Height (in): 36.000 in.

Bmf5150 09-10-2015 11:17 AM

Thanks for posting

Bmf5150 09-11-2015 12:35 PM

Do they make a fan assembly that fits this heat exchanger ??

waynieZ 09-14-2015 07:44 PM

Where it's mounted it draws through the radiator so that fan pulls the air for it.

Bmf5150 06-06-2017 06:22 PM

You guys happy with yours so far?

waynieZ 06-24-2017 10:06 PM

I'm not up and running yet but Travis is doing well with his.

rocketrod 06-25-2017 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmf5150 (Post 660134)
You guys happy with yours so far?

I know MattG, who started this thread, had was happy with it before I bought his entire setup. I haven't installed it yet, but I heard nothing but rave reviews for C&R products.

bullittcustoms 12-16-2017 09:58 AM

I got this piece in this week from Summit. It only came with the Heat Exchanger and top bracket. Is there a bottom bracket and mounting hardware? Am I missing pieces? (It's typical if I am) There is nowhere to mount the bottom pegs....

TIA - Derek


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