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clill 10-14-2013 10:17 PM

New Z28 on the Ring
 
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f...e-ring-138274/

I like when he gets airborne at 157 mph...

Sieg 10-14-2013 10:26 PM

Do you have one yet Charlie? After driving a 1LE I can only imagine how good the Z might be.


WILWAXU 10-14-2013 11:54 PM

Looks like a blast! :thumbsup:

Rick D 10-15-2013 03:25 AM

Wow that just bad ass!! Man I thought he was going to lose it a few times in the rain.

You know I thought I wanted one of these but after seeing that the wipers don't do much at 158 mph I think I'll have to pass :confused18: :_paranoid

So was that Mark driving??

HEEP 10-15-2013 04:00 AM

So, 161 MPH in the rain.:hairpullout: :hail: :confused59:

Not sure if I'm equipped for that.

HEEP

Stuart Adams 10-15-2013 06:25 AM

Cool car and video.

Streetking 10-15-2013 06:30 AM

Very impressive for such a big car..

rchaskin 10-15-2013 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HEEP (Post 510622)
So, 161 MPH in the rain.:hairpullout: :hail: :confused59:

Not sure if I'm equipped for that.

HEEP

BALLS OF STEEL FOR SURE......

WOW!!!!!

syborg tt 10-15-2013 01:20 PM

It's on my want list of cars.

hifi875 10-15-2013 02:38 PM

how come you don't see any muttstangs or shelbys on the ring. are they scared to compete against the general or what??

Track Junky 10-15-2013 07:16 PM

Man, that was a fun ride. Congrats to Cheverolet :thumbsup: :flag2:

olds87 10-15-2013 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 510620)
Wow that just bad ass!! Man I thought he was going to lose it a few times in the rain.

You know I thought I wanted one of these but after seeing that the wipers don't do much at 158 mph I think I'll have to pass :confused18: :_paranoid

So was that Mark driving??

I want to know if Mark was driving, too.

mustangracer11 10-15-2013 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hifi875 (Post 510714)
how come you don't see any muttstangs or shelbys on the ring. are they scared to compete against the general or what??

They aren't scared. I guess ford puts more focus on drag racing than road corse. Chevy doesn't stand a chance on the strip. And a factory camaro hasn't been 200mph yet. I still believe the mustang is a much better car and will be even better when the next generation comes out.

Track Junky 10-15-2013 08:56 PM

I noticed he hit a little over 7000 rpm at one point but maintained around 6000 down the straight. Wonder why he didn't push it any harder down the straight?

Ron in SoCal 10-15-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangracer11 (Post 510801)
They aren't scared. I guess ford puts more focus on drag racing than road corse. Chevy doesn't stand a chance on the strip. And a factory camaro hasn't been 200mph yet. I still believe the mustang is a much better car and will be even better when the next generation comes out.

Go Seahawks! :lol: j/k!

I do believe the next gen Mustangs will be a better car. The argument carries little weight IMO until the showroom versions both hit the road course heads up. Oh wait, didn't one of the magazines do that in the last year?

:cheers:

Sieg 10-15-2013 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 510804)
I noticed he hit a little over 7000 rpm at one point but maintained around 6000 down the straight. Wonder why he didn't push it any harder down the straight?

I noticed that appeared he over-revved it between corners early in the run vs shifting.....didn't hear a rev limiter kick in either. The rest of the time it looked like he was shifting @ 6,500-6,800.

161 mph was max I observed......wind conditions, stock aero, running out of ponies? Less than ideal track condition? That lap time was decent IMO considering the track looked like it could have been spotty wet/dry in many areas that it wasn't raining.

Either way, what a great track car right off the showroom floor!

Track Junky 10-15-2013 09:34 PM

Could have been a combo of weather conditions and aero. Either way he still laid down a fantastic lap time beating the 911 and the Lambo :thumbsup: :flag2:

CarlC 10-15-2013 10:32 PM

Gotta remember he was going that speed with "only" 505hp. That's not too shabby.

Of all the 5th-gens this is the one I would happily park in the garage. Hopefully the "Z" moniker carries over to the next generation.

Rick D 10-16-2013 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 510808)
Go Seahawks! :lol: j/k!


:cheers:

Trouble maker!!!! :mock: :lol:

clill 10-16-2013 06:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by olds87 (Post 510797)
I want to know if Mark was driving, too.

No that was not Mark.

fleet 10-16-2013 07:06 AM

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The intensity of the exhaust note reminds me of Steve McQueen driving the Mustang in the Bullitt car chase.


89 RS 10-16-2013 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 510809)

Either way, what a great track car right off the showroom floor!

^Right on! I couldn't agree more, I'll take one!

clill 10-16-2013 08:04 AM

Driver was Adam Dean.

Press release:

Track-capable Camaro Z/28 Validated at Nürburgring
· Z/28 undergoes 10 hours or 1,000 miles of testing at Nordschleife
· Fastest lap completed in 7:37.40 in rainy conditions

DETROIT – Chevrolet today revealed a video of the all-new, 2014 Camaro Z/28 lapping Germany’s challenging Nürburgring road course in 7:37.40, a time comparable with some of the world’s most prestigious sports cars.

The Z/28’s lap is four seconds faster than the Camaro ZL1, and beats published times for the Porsche 911 Carrera S and the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640. The Z/28’slap was completed on less-than-ideal conditions, with damp pavement and pouring rain near the end of the run.

"One of the challenges of testing at the 'Ring is that the track is so long that conditions can change radically in a single lap," said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. "Adam Dean, the development driver for Z/28, did a heroic job driving in deteriorating conditions. Based on telemetry data from our test sessions, we know the Z/28 can be as much as six seconds faster on a dry track."

In terms of lap times, the Z/28’s improved speed came from three areas:

· Increased grip: The Z/28 is capable of 1.08 g in cornering acceleration, due to comprehensive chassis revisions
· Increased stopping power: The Z/28 features Brembo carbon-ceramic brakes capable of 1.5 g in deceleration, and consistent brake feel lap after lap
· Reduced curb weight: The naturally aspirated Z/28 weighs 300 pounds less than the supercharged Camaro ZL1, with changes ranging from lightweight wheels to thinner rear-window glass.

The heart of the Z/28 is the 7.0L LS7 engine. The LS7 uses lightweight, racing-proven, high-performance components, such as titanium intake valves and connecting rods, CNC-ported aluminum cylinder heads and a forged-steel crankshaft to help produce an SAE-certified 505 horsepower (376 kW) and 481 lb-ft of torque (652 Nm). Air-conditioning is available, but only as an option.

A close-ratio six-speed manual transmission is the only transmission offered and power is distributed to the rear wheels via a limited-slip differential featuring a helical gear set, rather than traditional clutch packs. The new design enables the driver to apply more power and get through corners faster, by making the most of the capability of individual-wheel antilock brake function during corner entry braking, mid-corner speed and corner-exit traction.

The team spent a week at the Nürburgringas part of the Z/28's performance-validation regimen, accumulating a total of 10 hours and nearly 1,000 miles on the track. Each lap took less than eight minutes to complete, despite having to overtake slower traffic at times. These hours are part of the grueling 24-Hour Test, which simulates a full year's worth of track use of track days or amateur-level competition at the hands of an owner.

“Passing the 24-Hour Test is a requirement for all cars we call 'track capable,’” said Wayne McConnell, director of global vehicle performance. "The test pushes the car at 10/10ths on the track for a total of 24 hours. During the test the only mechanical changes allowed are replacing the brakes and tires.”

The 24-Hour Test is broken into a number of segments over the course of several days – and even at different tracks – to evaluate performance in precisely measured and carefully monitored increments. Crucially, each valid test lap must be run within 2 percent of a target lap speed to count toward the 24-hour total.

The 24-Hour Test was first used in the early 1990s for the fourth-generation Corvette. Back then, the 300-horsepower Corvette was Chevrolet’s most powerful vehicle, and the 24-Hour Test measured 15 channels of data. Today, the 2014 Camaro LS offers a 323-horsepower V-6, while the Camaro Z/28’s racing-proven LS7 7.0L small-block V-8 delivers 505 horsepower, and the 24-Hour Test measures 130 channels of data.

“Our cars' performance and capability have advanced tremendously in the past 20 years, which required us to continually improve the parameters of the 24-Hour Test," said McConnell.

"Today’s test pushes the car harder than the vast majority of customers ever will. As a result, when we call a car ‘track capable’ we are confident that it will perform reliably and consistently for our customers.”

camcojb 10-16-2013 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by clill (Post 510876)
Driver was Adam Dean.

Ordered one yet? :unibrow:

GregWeld 10-16-2013 08:19 AM

Just awesome...... I was tensed up the entire video!

Al Moreno 10-16-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mustangracer11 (Post 510801)
They aren't scared. I guess ford puts more focus on drag racing than road corse. Chevy doesn't stand a chance on the strip. And a factory camaro hasn't been 200mph yet. I still believe the mustang is a much better car and will be even better when the next generation comes out.

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Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=tv8I-gqc6sc


BTW, Al Oppenheiser said to Motor trend the Z/28 actually did a 7.31.9 on dry but they couldn't post that because they didn't film it.

That put's the Z/28 a totally different league, Faster than Koenigsegg CCX, Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII, Ferrari 458 Italia, etc

Here is a link to all the track times. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...eife_lap_times

My hats off the GM and the boys.Kinda neat to know that Mark had a part in that :cheers:

Sieg 10-16-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

I asked Oppenheiser one more thing about competition around the Z/28. His team wants it to go against the GT-R, sure. But could the Z/28 also take some shine away from the Corvette? Oppenheiser says the Corvette engineers and Camaro engineers are always in competition. And they're ready to re-tune the Z/28 if the 'Vette team comes with something stronger. So keep watching.
:guns:

Track Junky 10-16-2013 06:33 PM

That's some great insight. After hearing that I'm wondering what 2015 will bring.

glassman 10-16-2013 07:22 PM

Man i enjoyed watching that drive. A few of those corners he looked too late, but thats the "arm chair quaterback" talking. I was tensed up almost that entire time.

I would like to own this car. Period.

fleet 10-16-2013 07:28 PM

Adam Dean

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BWvn0lyCUAA9t9X.jpg

smoked the 'Ring...

glassman 10-16-2013 07:43 PM

^:lol: :lol: :lol:

mustangracer11 10-16-2013 08:56 PM

The z28 is definitely better than the boss. The boss has a solid axle,less HP, doesn't have carbon brakes or the shock technology that gm does. It also cost almost 20k less than the z28. I think gm has finally produced a good camaro and zl1 owners are probably going to be disappointed I know I would be. It's about time chevy has a camaro better than the mustang.
But my thoughts are. Cobra jet > copo , 5.0 gt> SS , gt500> ZL1 , Boss + 20k > Z28.

Sieg 10-16-2013 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Track Junky (Post 510990)
That's some great insight. After hearing that I'm wondering what 2015 will bring.

Quote:

The Z/28’s lap is four seconds faster than the Camaro ZL1, and beats published times for the Porsche 911 Carrera S and the Lamborghini Murcielago LP640. The Z/28’slap was completed on less-than-ideal conditions, with damp pavement and pouring rain near the end of the run.

"One of the challenges of testing at the 'Ring is that the track is so long that conditions can change radically in a single lap," said Al Oppenheiser, Camaro chief engineer. "Adam Dean, the development driver for Z/28, did a heroic job driving in deteriorating conditions. Based on telemetry data from our test sessions, we know the Z/28 can be as much as six seconds faster on a dry track."
Game on! :thumbsup:

hifi875 10-17-2013 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mustangracer11 (Post 511034)
The z28 is definitely better than the boss. The boss has a solid axle,less HP, doesn't have carbon brakes or the shock technology that gm does. It also cost almost 20k less than the z28. I think gm has finally produced a good camaro and zl1 owners are probably going to be disappointed I know I would be. It's about time chevy has a camaro better than the mustang.
But my thoughts are. Cobra jet > copo , 5.0 gt> SS , gt500> ZL1 , Boss + 20k > Z28.

Theres is more to a car than just 1320 timeslips....

MarkM66 10-17-2013 07:20 AM

FWIW, Super Chevy posted on their FB page; the new Z28 is going to cost over $100k.

ccracin 10-17-2013 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 511066)
FWIW, Super Chevy posted on their FB page; the new Z28 is going to cost over $100k.

Boooooooo!

hifi875 10-17-2013 11:58 AM

that's nuts...... Heck a new z07 wont be much more than that

syborg tt 10-17-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 511066)
FWIW, Super Chevy posted on their FB page; the new Z28 is going to cost over $100k.

the good news is it has 2 more seat then the vette.

Still it's a factory race car and that is going to cost more then a normal version of the car. What did the Boss 302 track car cost from memory they were 125 or 150k

mfain 10-17-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkM66 (Post 511066)
FWIW, Super Chevy posted on their FB page; the new Z28 is going to cost over $100k.

My dealer is telling me closer to $80K, plus a BIG dealer pack on top of that. The carbon brakes didn't help the price, but I have them on my Z06/Z07 and, IMHO, they are worth the price, especially on a car as heavy as the Camaro. A lot of LS7s have "bit the dust" on the track, mostly due to valve guide and sodium filled exhaust valve problems -- hope they have that solved. I would still pay sticker, but dealer packs P... me off!

Pappy

dontlifttoshift 10-17-2013 02:23 PM

Let me fix that for you:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 511099)
the good news is it has a place behind the front seats where you can put a toy poodle or a helmet that the vette doesn't have

80K is still a lot of money for a "street" car with no air conditioning or radio
Comparing it to a Boss302S isn't really fair either, as that is a full prepped, ready to rock racecar..... for the same money. http://www.rehagenracingproducts.com...R500-B302S.htm

The Z28 should have been an el strippo with the LS7 and that's it. 40K pricetag FTW!:thumbsup:

That said......I want one.


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