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Opinions needed on Barret Jackson Entry
So I am torn about taking my car to barret-jackson in January. I have a lot number 1289 and its scheduled to go Saturday between 3-5. My thoughts are what do you guys think about the car and what do you think I will get money wise. Its a 69 Carmaro with DSE and LS2/ with tremec 5 spd.
http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...n=1289&aid=525 Thanks for the input. |
Probably get half of what you put in, or less? I would say from what I have seen that you would probably see it bring 100-150 range. Depends if they send it up right after a bunch of pro touring/rods and you get the leftover bidders or not.
Dont get me wrong, its a beautiful car, and if you built it for 150 or less then you know something I dont! or your time is free, either way beautiful car! I dont know, we have a client that has bought a ton from the barrett (not anything that has impressed me or made my job easier) and he payed a decent buck for customs. They are going for more than they used to, but it seems weird. I guess its the clientelle, being older guys that like chrome and shaved doors, but the high end pro touring stuff we all tend to lean towards doesnt get the appreciation that a traditional street rod or custom gets with a ton of chrome and shiny stuff. The PT high end stuff doesnt even bring the parts value sometimes, and the cars with cast chrome foose wheels do really well. go figure. Your car has a nice blend of traditional street rod and pro touring, so it should do well but then you have to share the profit. Just my 2 cents? |
Ok i took a closer look and I mean no disrespect with the shaved door handles and chrome comment, I was stereotyping!
Were those pics taken at RK? no luck with a sale? |
Beautiful car, but it's very custom...killer interior, dse front and rear, Baer brakes on 4 corners, ls2, but very custom. I hope you get what you want, but the more custom the car, the less it may bring. Hopefully two bidders with more money than they know what to do with want the car. Good luck. I'll be watching (hopefully in person).
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It's real simple --- IT DEPENDS.
It depends on whether or not you hang around the car and PRESELL it to more than one bidder…. Because to get "money" at an auction --- you need two or three guys minimum to be bidding against each other. One guy can't raise his own bid. It depends on what other similar cars sell for before your's hits the block… It depends on when it runs and what went before it. Maybe the two guys you thought were hot on your car - just stole one that was similar… so now you're down to one bidder. You take a car to a no reserve auction - it IS going to sell…. you'd just better be prepared to be disappointed rather than thinking your car is suddenly going to make you rich. |
Oh yeah ---- and the real pro touring buyer with big bucks is going to be saving that for The Mule…. and you run before that. If you ran AFTER the Mule - it might have brought you that buyer that didn't or couldn't snag the car he really wanted.
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I should be running after the Mule. I think he is slotted to go in the Solon Selection from 1-3.
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It is a beautiful car and one would expect it to do well on a Saturday slot. Aside from the Mule there are other cars in your category: http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...n=1312&aid=525 |
I agree with Tyler, seems the more cheesy and glitzy (personal opinion), the more they bring. Guys who want a PT style car are usually more into building than buying already done.
If you are sending it to a no reserve auction, you have pretty much exhausted all other options and are planning to give it away for pennies on the dollar. Jeff- |
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In which case -- your signature line fits the bill perfectly! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
Car is a little specific as others have said but definitely nice and has good parts. Here’s some additional pics from when I saw it at the 2010 Des Moines GoodGuys. Smart move to clean up some of the original punisher theme before resale.
Best of luck to you! http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/IMG_3289.jpg http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/IMG_3295.jpg http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/IMG_3290.jpg http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/IMG_3288.jpg http://i923.photobucket.com/albums/a...4/IMG_3287.jpg |
How long has your car been on the market?
I seem to recall it being on RK's website for a long time. Did you buy it from them, or were you trying to have them sell it? |
I actually traded my 41 Willys straight across for the Camaro. My Willys is still on there site. RK took all the Punisher logos off the body along with the strips on the hood to make it a cleaner look. I am on the fence about selling it. I have not tried any other place to sell it and its not currently on the marker. My intent was to build another car of my own. The orginal builder/owner put tons of money into the car with everything he did. The bottom is just as nice as the top fully polished and painted. Car is a blast to drive (my first hotrod with a manual) and rides great. I wanted to build another 69 with RS chassis and ls7 but I don't know if i can afford it.
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I have the Nova consigned at Russo Steele in January, it is a smaller auction for sure. Hoping the car actually gets more attention than being lost in the crowd?? also I have set a reserve on the car, there is NO WAY I am putting my car up to sell to the LOWEST bidder, not going to happen I will keep it if that is the case, I don't have to sell it. and i also don't have the bank roll like say a guy who would sell the MUEL at no reserve.
i plan on standing there for a couple days to boost the interest, I figure i can make more in 2 days promoting the car than I can sitting here posting about it. The Nova has some history which may help??? it is a proven car, maybe that matters maybe it doesn't it's a crap shoot no mater what. |
I'm selling the Mule at no reserve because I have a good auction time at Barrett. We all think our cars are worth x amount. It is usually more than they are actually worth. Barrett does a great job of bringing the buyers. I don't think there is anywhere else that will bring more money for my car. It is not going to be worth more than the high bid so no reserve is the way to go in my mind. The Camaro in this thread has a good time slot so in my opinion it is going to bring all it is really worth at the least. I would not be surprised if his Camaro doesn't bring more than the Mule. The trendy type looking cars seem to do quite well at Barrett-Jackson. The Mule doesn't have alot of flash compared to it.
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Two years ago at Russo and Steele I help to sell a couple of cars. This car was parked two slots away from one of the cars I was helping with and the owners\builder of that car were there all day every day...trying to sell the car as much as they could before it rolled across the block.
They were nervous too, it was a beautiful car, very well built, but specialized for sure. I can't remember what it sold for exactly, 125-150k IIRC, and they were somewhat pleased what it bid up to and sold for...but they worked it HARD for 3-4 days before it rolled through Saturday evening. Actually, I found the results, it sold for $137,500...no reserve... http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-c...-Mustang/19471 We did too...and the two cars we sold also brought right up to book value and sold to guys that we had personally worked on in the prior days. That is CRUCIAL. My partner is taking his ZL1 powered vette to BJ this January and plans to do the same with it, sell it long before it crosses the block. It's a special car...something that a decision to buy can't be made in the 5 minutes or so the car is on the block (much like the one this thread is about). The one backup you have selling it at a no reserve auction is...you can always be the high bidder. It'll cost you some commissions on both sides, but at least you aren't totally pants down going in. |
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I really hope you do well. I hope somebody buys it that will drive it like you did. But as you just said, you're gonna have a good time regardless! Jeff- |
Hey Blake if you let me drive it I will come stand next to your nova, you know a pretty face might help it sell! haha ya right. Plus its damn cold here now I could use some warm weather! Not that I am complaining or anything!
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I'd buy The Mule all day long -- but you bast age -- you've cost me a f'k'n fortune this last couple years as it is -- so I'm done - stick a fork in me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Besides - I like electric windows I'm too short to reach across and roll the manuals down. |
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You stay out of it! :hitaxeonthehead: Don't you have a car to build?? :gitrdun: |
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Not my style but my opinion is that it's a great Barrett car. It appeals to those with the cash. If Charley is telling you it may bring more than the Mule, get the truck on the way.
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Well I know one thing; this is definitely the right place to ask for opinions. No shortage:D
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$70,000.
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Seriously, Although pretty personalized, your car has a great look to it. I'm no car god, but my father and I Have been to several Barrett Jackson's. IMO, A well built car that stands out like that has more of a chance at hitting solid numbers at bj than possibly something more mundane looking with a pricier drivetrain. Like the big boys said though, You need the right crowd and you need to do your best to market it before it crosses. |
^^^ I wasn't trying to be grumpy but that is what he wanted and I agree with you that the camaro (although not quite my taste) should do good especially if that time slot holds.........jmo......jim
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"I'd buy The Mule all day long -- but you bast age -- you've cost me a f'k'n fortune this last couple years as it is -- so I'm done - stick a fork in me."
Greg, Buying the Mule will just up your post count beyond 20,000 overnite with “Holy crap you bought the Mule?? Awesome!!! threads. Your investment will definetly hold its value. If Mark Stielow is the Don Yenko of our times albeit with a better haircut then owning the PT Crown Jewel El Mule is sure to pay dividends handsomely in the future when everyone else comes around to understanding/paying for PT rarity and greatness. It can function as your back up back up track car. It’ll serve to keep atleast one full on Chevy in your stable. This one you can buy just for yourself (and everyone else here) Charley if Greg sways easy on this and buys I expect 2 tickets to 2014 MCACN with a couple of preztel vouchers. to hotwhls goodluck with the sale. |
Punisher branding
Hello. To start, nice car. I remember seeing this car at RK motors a while back when it still had the punisher branding on it. In looking at the BJ pics, I still see the shadow of the logo on the quarter panel. May just be me, but, did they re paint the quarters or pull off the logos or ??? Just wondering if there is any trace of the logos still on the car. Can you please let me know.
Thanks, Chris |
No there is no trace of anything on the car it just a weird angle picture. All the paint is in perfect shape. I am thinking of not taking the car to barrett I just don't know if the money is going to be there. But if you know someone that may be interested let me know. Thanks
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VERY FUNNY. Are you and Charley connected somehow? He's like that little devil dude that sits on your shoulder taunting you to "buy buy buy". |
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Take care, Chris |
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This car will bring just as much or more at Barrett Jackson then it will trying to sell it privately. I don't see what the big risk is people see selling it at BJ. Rodger |
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The RISK is he's a non-recurring single car seller --- and as such --- will most likely NOT get the appropriate time slot that we all know is critical to getting "said value" from his sale. Go talk to anyone that has had the unlucky (stupid on their part?) early or late Thursday time slot --- or early morning (pick a day)… and there's just no buyers in the house. TIME SLOT is everything at these auctions. |
So the people at Barrett Jackson are happy to just throw away possible commission on a high dollar build by randomly dishing out weak time slots?
Again -- Look at the comps. Go here: http://www.barrett-jackson.com/appli...vecarlist.aspx Search 1969 Chevrolet Camaro and look for sale price and other trends relative to the quality of the cars. It will be clear that the process is anything but fast and loose. |
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The car has to appeal to the masses or your market is just narrower. If you have a Saturday time slot for this car and you actually want to sell it, You might as well ride it out, cuz it will sell for what its worth. Its a 69 Camaro there has to be some people in audience that want a 69 Camaro. |
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