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Mac&Otto 12-05-2013 11:45 AM

1970 Camaro-Purpose Built Auto Cross
 
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Another 70 Camaro auto cross car. I thought I would share my build hoping everyone that contributes to the site will have some helpful insight. I'm building this car specifically for auto-cross, yet it will be street legal. I purchased the car nearly a year ago from Roger Lee at Ironworks and had it shipped home to start the build. Since then I have slowly repaired concerning spots in the sheetmetal and collected several new go fast parts. The car is getting the full Detroit Speed suspension treatment(complete front Hydroformed stub and quadralink) along with DSE cage, firewall block off plate and mini tubs. I plan on running the GM performance LS3/525 and I have already ordered an M22-W from AutoGear. I just received my 3rd member from Competition Gear and Transmission in North Carolina and am awaiting my new quictime bellhousing. I just finalized all my wheel dimensions with Jay @ Budnik(Thanks Jay) and will pull the trigger on those as soon as the suspension is bolted under the car for the last time. I have lots of other details but will stop here and provide some photos of my progress. I was able to make it to SEMA this year along with the last Goodguys in Scottsdale, the competition seems to be growing rapidly and I look forward to joining in. Thanks, Cal.

camcojb 12-05-2013 04:56 PM

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Last one.

WSSix 12-05-2013 05:04 PM

Welcome to the site. Sounds like a great build plan. We need more 2nd gens :D

Mac&Otto 12-05-2013 05:12 PM

The pics above are kind of a fast track of my progress. The car was a shell only when I received it from Roger. As you can see, it's received a new roof, its stripped, I have started filling the firewall and it's now on the twirler(thanks to my son Mac). As soon as I can get the picture attaching figured out I will post recent pics of my progress.

Thanks, Cal.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-05-2013 05:45 PM

Awwww man I was kinda hoping for a roadster 70 Camaro!!!!

Looks great so far.

I'm waith Trey, more pictures!

tubbed69 12-05-2013 05:54 PM

Sure will be a nice one with that parts list,good luck with your new project:G-Dub:

Mac&Otto 12-05-2013 05:55 PM

Thanks. You don't know how close it was to becoming someone else forever roadster.

ma73z 12-05-2013 06:24 PM

Always good to see another 2nd gen., keep the pics coming!

WSSix 12-05-2013 08:54 PM

lol, I'm blind. I honestly didn't notice the roof and a-pillars were missing in the one picture. :headscratch:

coolwelder62 12-05-2013 09:27 PM

Welcome Aboard!!!!!!! Will enjoy seeing another great home built car.Thank's for sharing.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-05-2013 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac&Otto (Post 520955)
Thanks. You don't know how close it was to becoming someone else forever roadster.

Dude, I want your license plate. :thumbsup:

73CPCAMARO 12-05-2013 10:52 PM

Welcome and I am looking forward to watching your progress. :popcorn2:

Brian

Mac&Otto 12-06-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 521005)
Dude, I want your license plate. :thumbsup:

That license plate is gonna cost ya. It's the only thing on the whole car I haven't had to work on.


Thanks, Cal.

Mac&Otto 12-06-2013 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 73CPCAMARO (Post 521041)
Welcome and I am looking forward to watching your progress. :popcorn2:

Brian

Thanks Brian. I really enjoyed watching your car being built and it turned out fantastic. At some point in the build I would like to ask you some questions regarding weight, especially front to rear percentages.

Thanks, Cal.

Matt@BOS 12-06-2013 08:06 PM

Hey Cal, it was nice running into you and Paul at SEMA and again at Scottsdale. He mentioned it was a little rough when you started. I had no idea it was that rough.

Matt

Vince@Meanstreets 12-06-2013 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac&Otto (Post 521122)
That license plate is gonna cost ya. It's the only thing on the whole car I haven't had to work on.


Thanks, Cal.

Well as long as I can count to 20 on my digets and pee standing up i'll entertain your price. :lol:

Let me know if you wanna part with it.


Can't wait to see more!!!!

Mac&Otto 12-06-2013 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt.A (Post 521147)
Hey Cal, it was nice running into you and Paul at SEMA and again at Scottsdale. He mentioned it was a little rough when you started. I had no idea it was that rough.

Matt

It was nice running into you too and I enjoyed watching you run in Scottsdale. It's a little rough, but it's been fun working on it and when you repair as much as we have you know when your done it's a solid car. These pictures are fairly old, I will grab new ones this week and post current pics of the car. And thanks for the tires, paul says you have some skins we can use for the build. Thanks, Matt.

Cal

Matt@BOS 12-07-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac&Otto (Post 521174)
It was nice running into you too and I enjoyed watching you run in Scottsdale. It's a little rough, but it's been fun working on it and when you repair as much as we have you know when your done it's a solid car. These pictures are fairly old, I will grab new ones this week and post current pics of the car. And thanks for the tires, paul says you have some skins we can use for the build. Thanks, Matt.

Cal

Sure thing. When you're ready for some test fitting, just let me know. Between Gregg and I, the "tire shed" at Best of Show stays pretty well stocked with old tires.

Mac&Otto 12-09-2013 08:41 AM

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Here are some pis of the car after blasting. I replaced the passenger side rocker, built a small piece for the bottom of the quarter and replaced the drivers quarter skin. The trunk is in and window opening(verticals on sail panel) is also in but needs welded up. I wil post more pics this weekend.

Thanks, Cal.

Mac&Otto 12-09-2013 08:48 AM

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The rocker was fairly easy but these small patches in front of the wheel open were more work than expected. It's layered and has a heavier gauge inner structure that also ties in to the wheel well lip.

Mac&Otto 12-09-2013 08:52 AM

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The quarter wasn't too bad except, as everyone knows, the aftermarket panels are never a perfect match and trusting reference points on the panel to make final cuts is a little time consuming.

Mac&Otto 12-09-2013 08:53 AM

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One more.

aggie91 12-09-2013 10:52 AM

nice work so far. This is my favorite body Camaro.

Tuning in for the rest...

Mac&Otto 12-09-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 521671)
nice work so far. This is my favorite body Camaro.

Tuning in for the rest...

Thank you.

ma73z 12-09-2013 06:11 PM

Looking very nice! Keep the pics coming. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ChuckDriver 12-10-2013 11:32 AM

Excellent metal work!!

Mac&Otto 12-13-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver (Post 521914)
Excellent metal work!!

Thank you. Im posting more pics here shortly of today's progress.

Mac&Otto 12-13-2013 07:11 PM

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I just came in from the shop and here are some new photos. I put in a 10 hour day today and it seems I didn't get anything done.

Thanks , Cal.

Mac&Otto 12-13-2013 07:13 PM

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The front stub is assembled just received my third member.

Mac&Otto 12-13-2013 07:18 PM

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I installed all the cage mounting plates and got the back half all tacked in.i also finished the passenger side flange for the wheel tub and plan on finishing up the drivers side tomorrow.

Mac&Otto 12-13-2013 07:24 PM

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The drivers side tub is in and fit but needs to be removed and the interior flange needs welded in. I also have the cage plates plug welded to the frame rails.

Vince@Meanstreets 12-13-2013 10:55 PM

looking good!

Swain 12-18-2013 10:51 AM

Cal,

Looks awesome can't wait to get the wheels built for you. Keep up the pics we love seeing new updates.

Nice work on the sheet metal..

Mac&Otto 12-20-2013 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Swain (Post 523573)
Cal,

Looks awesome can't wait to get the wheels built for you. Keep up the pics we love seeing new updates.

Nice work on the sheet metal..

Thanks Jay. I'm headed back to the shop on Monday and will post more pics of my progress. I'm hoping to finish the install on the wheel tubs and then weld in the top 4-link mounts. Then it's bolt up suspension. Should go a lot faster from here on out. Thanks again for your help.

Cal.

Mac&Otto 12-20-2013 05:12 PM

A little bit about the build and myself.
 
I was reading my initial intro and I thought I would share a little about myself and why the camaro. First, I've been around cars, bikes, boats, etc. my whole life thanks to my dad(Phil). I'm also lucky to have a dad that is an amazing craftsman, mechanic, fabricator, you name it, he can do it. I've been through lots of projects and he's had his hands in on every one. He still runs around with his hot rod buddies from high school and I run around with their sons. All of them still very active into cars. Now, the reason for the camaro. I met my wife nearly ten years ago and before I met her parents she told me of her dad's camaro. I pretty much DIDN'T listen to her, what girl knew about cars. Then I met her parents and eventually that same day her dad(Paul Alderman) asked if I wanted to look at some cars. HOLY CRAP, Paul had and still has some amazing cars. Just look on DSE's website and look at his 69 and 70 camaro's. Don't think because DSE built these that he doesn't get dirty, he is very active on his on builds and wait until you see his 72 chevy truck he just finished. Paul has an eye for cool cars , technically is a wizard and it seems the older he gets, the faster he wants to go. So, eight years later, several hours in the shop, several more discussing how to go faster, the Camaro was born. So we decided to call DSE(Big Thanks to Kyle and Stacy), cut out all the unnecessary weight, add some of our own ideas, apply both of our skill sets and build a autcross car. Don't worry, my dad will be getting dirty too, he likes to act like he's not excited to get in on it, but he is. I won't leave out the wives, they support all of our crazy ideas and as long as Goodguys keeps putting on shows near a shopping mall, we're good. I have had lots of support from other friends that I will list later in the build but thought I should at least explain the start.

Thanks, Cal.

Ron Sutton 12-20-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac&Otto (Post 524015)
I was reading my initial intro and I thought I would share a little about myself and why the camaro. First, I've been around cars, bikes, boats, etc. my whole life thanks to my dad(Phil). I'm also lucky to have a dad that is an amazing craftsman, mechanic, fabricator, you name it, he can do it. I've been through lots of projects and he's had his hands in on every one. He still runs around with his hot rod buddies from high school and I run around with their sons. All of them still very active into cars. Now, the reason for the camaro. I met my wife nearly eight years ago and before I met her parents she told me of her dad's camaro. I pretty much DIDN'T listen to her, what girl new about cars. Then I met her parents and eventually that same day her dad(Paul Alderman) asked if I wanted to look at some cars. HOLY CRAP, Paul had and still has some amazing cars. Just look on DSE's website and look at his 69 and 70 camaro's. Don't think because DSE built these that he does get dirty, he is very active on his on builds and wait until you see his 72 chevy truck he just finished. Paul has an eye for cool cars , technically is a wizard and it seems the older he gets, the faster he wants to go. So, eight years later, several hours in the shop, several more discussing how to go faster, the Camaro was born. So we decided to call DSE(Big Thanks to Kyle and Stacy), cut out all the unnecessary weight, add some of our own ideas, apply both of our skill sets and build a autcross car. Don't worry, my dad will be getting dirty too, he likes to act like he's not excited to get in on it, but he is. I won't leave out the wives, they support all of our crazy ideas and as long as Goodguys keeps putting on shows near a shopping mall, we're good. I have had lots of support from other friends that I will list later in the build but thought I should at least explain the start.

Thanks, Cal.

This is cool. Thanks for sharing.

.

Ron in SoCal 12-20-2013 06:08 PM

Great story Cal. I met Paul a year ago last March at Del Mar when his car was fresh. He was so excited to show me all the little details and struck me as a great guy!

Talk about gasoline in your veins...:cheers:

Mac&Otto 12-20-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Sutton (Post 524021)
This is cool. Thanks for sharing.

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Thank you. I have read several of your threads and always enjoy them. Please feel free to give advice if you wish. I'm always open to learning something new. Thanks again.

Cal.

glassman 12-20-2013 09:43 PM

His is one of favorite 2nd gens. Yours is coming along very nicely. Love the body style (as i'm on my 2nd 2nd gen).....great to watch it come along.

Mac&Otto 12-23-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 524053)
His is one of favorite 2nd gens. Yours is coming along very nicely. Love the body style (as i'm on my 2nd 2nd gen).....great to watch it come along.

Thanks. Paul's car is great and DSE did a great job. The car was a local car that Paul bought minus the motor and trans. He stripped it here in Ellensburg and delivered Kyle a painted shell. It's a pretty classy car. I just read your project post, did you figure out the wheels? I think it's a ZX3 and I know he had the fasteners reversed to the inside. I also think they had to clearance the bolt heads to clear the calipers. Let me know if you want any details.

Thanks, Cal.


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