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Sieg 12-11-2013 07:09 AM

Femi NG120 Mitering Bandsaw
 
Anyone have hands-on experience with this saw?

http://www.trick-tools.com/common/im...ge/ng120xl.jpg

http://www.trick-tools.com/Femi_NG12...1#.Uqhw6_RDsXs

Watched a cutting demonstration at SEMA......it's fast through 2" round bar.

Curious as to it's mitering accuracy.

Thanks

Jon69RagTop 12-14-2013 09:12 PM

I have one
 
Love it, great saw. Best of all when not in use it doesn't take up a lot of room. Bought mine through Trick Tools.

GregWeld 12-15-2013 07:01 AM

HA! Now I feel like Charley… Out there making you spend money!

Sieg 12-15-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 522857)
HA! Now I feel like Charley… Out there making you spend money!

............You Suck.


........now I feel like Charlie too!

:mock:

out2kayak 12-15-2013 11:55 AM

FWIW, there was an article on it on the Street Rodder website:

http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/...ng120_bandsaw/

:cheers:

Sieg 12-15-2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by out2kayak (Post 522908)
FWIW, there was an article on it on the Street Rodder website:

http://www.streetrodderweb.com/tech/...ng120_bandsaw/

:cheers:

Thanks Joe. Didn't know they'd been around that long. Now I just need to figure out how to make it pay respectable dividends.

GregWeld 12-15-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 522920)
Thanks Joe. Didn't know they'd been around that long. Now I just need to figure out how to make it pay respectable dividends.


All you need is a couple shops that will sell your frames -- 'cause I think with a little bit of tweaking -- you could have a "line" there with 6 or 10 styles and sizes.

Not sure they're gift shop frames… and not sure they belong in art galleries because they just have too sophisticated traffic… but there are places that sell automotive art and you wouldn't need many places to stock 3 or 4 models.

75 or 100 retail -- so 37.50 to 50 cost.. can you make one in an hour if you were making a few at a time? Cut the pieces - jig - weld - clear coat…

Sieg 12-16-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 522930)
All you need is a couple shops that will sell your frames -- 'cause I think with a little bit of tweaking -- you could have a "line" there with 6 or 10 styles and sizes.

Not sure they're gift shop frames… and not sure they belong in art galleries because they just have too sophisticated traffic… but there are places that sell automotive art and you wouldn't need many places to stock 3 or 4 models.

75 or 100 retail -- so 37.50 to 50 cost.. can you make one in an hour if you were making a few at a time? Cut the pieces - jig - weld - clear coat…

Once jigs and templates were made I'd say 2 hours at best. Consider miter joint prep, clamping, cooling, sanding, head-scratching, *@$# tungsten grinding, etc.

I don't have a good corner clamp yet or enough decent clamps for that matter so all the joints are hand fit.......slow going right now.

I did this one today and it was at least 4 hours. :sieg:

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-X...XFfhGcB-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-C...CPKJ7cN-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-n...nJjqSQ6-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-8...8JsvWzg-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-K...K95RrXs-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-3...3pBXDXg-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-6...6vjCkPx-XL.jpg

http://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-R...RQgKk25-XL.jpg

It's simply impossible to have too many tools!

I have so many more than Joe Average and I could conservatively spend $20K in a heartbeat. :thumbsup:

INTMD8 12-16-2013 10:32 PM

The frame looks pretty cool!

As for the band saw, I find myself working with smaller pieces that have no legs at times. (mandrel bends, 16-18ga)

I think ideally there would be an option to have an ID clamp system that terminated right before the blade so you could hold short sections without crushing them while cutting.

GregWeld 12-17-2013 06:21 AM

I like the frame Sieg… but at Brizio labor rates of $105 an hour - that would make that frame RETAIL for $850.


You've got some work to do before I pay ya $850 for that!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




These are fun projects and doing stuff like this always teaches a guy something. Warpage (heat control) - clamping - cutting - measuring - tacking - looks like you're doing some "finishing"… So I love the whole process and you're having fun with it too.

Hope you're putting little felt feet on the one you give your Mother in Law so it doesn't scratch her coffee table.

Amy order that FEMI saw yet?


LOL

Sieg 12-17-2013 08:10 AM

You'll make up the $850 in maintenance, storage, and insurance costs in no time!

These projects are great learning practice in a multitude of ways.

If I come up with a few worthy designs, prefabbing components for inventory would speed up the process dramatically. Designing on the fly isn't fast considering the brain I'm working with. :sieg:

She hasn't bought the saw or the Mitler Bros 3 ton press and bead roller and die collection, Beverly shear, ring roller, BurrKing 12" disc sander and 2" belt sander, plasma table, slotted welding table, tungsten grinder, solvent tank, and a couple other items! :secret:

GregWeld 12-17-2013 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg (Post 523336)
She hasn't bought the saw or the Mitler Bros 3 ton press and bead roller and die collection, Beverly shear, ring roller, BurrKing 12" disc sander and 2" belt sander, plasma table, slotted welding table, tungsten grinder, solvent tank, and a couple other items! :secret:




I don't really see the issue now that she's taken that 3rd full time job….

Sieg 12-17-2013 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 523339)
I don't really see the issue now that she's taken that 3rd full time job….

:lmao:

I give her major credit for being very supportive of the "hobby."

out2kayak 12-23-2013 04:08 PM

So.... I did not see a post of how well you liked the saw.

What do you think of it? :)

I picked up a Miller folding, slotted welding table with clamps -- very nice and is not in the way when in use. Miller has free shipping and a discount at the moment ($255). Not a bad deal.

http://store.millerwelds.com/commerc...?ProdID=300837

Cheers,

parsonsj 12-25-2013 09:52 AM

I used to use my Femi 120 all the time, but it cuts slightly crooked. The bottom of the cut is about 1/16" closer to the vise than the top. So I've learned to lift the piece to cut a little on the blade side to compensate. So I rate the saw as "just ok", and I tend to use my bandsaw more and more.

Sieg 12-25-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsonsj (Post 524838)
I used to use my Femi 120 all the time, but it cuts slightly crooked. The bottom of the cut is about 1/16" closer to the vise than the top. So I've learned to lift the piece to cut a little on the blade side to compensate. So I rate the saw as "just ok", and I tend to use my bandsaw more and more.

What type and diameter of material did you see that runout on?

parsonsj 12-26-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sieg
What type and diameter of material did you see that runout on?

I notice it on tubing -- any kind. Material doesn't matter. Since I never cut solid material, I can't say if this is a tubing-only only issue. I've scoured the manual and contacted the vendor about this, but without luck. So I just clamp the material slightly uphill, and live with the problem.


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