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lubeguy 12-24-2013 08:12 AM

anyone with a wayne due subframe
 
looking for someone with a wayne due subframe putting an ls1 in it and the clearance is an issue i seen pictures and it looks like the later version might be higher to the center of the motor mount from the crossmember if someone has an ls in that subframe i need a measurement from the flat of the crossmember to the center of the motormount bolt thanks

Ron in SoCal 12-24-2013 08:43 AM

Man for a second that was tough, but I ran it through my Snopp Dogg translator and I think I know what you mean:

http://www.gizoogle.net/textilizer.php

lookin fo' one of mah thugs wit a wayne due subframe puttin a ls1 up in it n' tha clearizzle be a issue i peeped pictures n' it be lookin like tha later version might be higher ta tha center of tha motor mount from tha crossmember if one of mah thugs has a ls up in dat subframe i need a measurement from tha flat of tha crossmember ta tha center of tha motormount bolt props

Sorry man, can't help. :D

Merry Christmas though! :cheers:

GregWeld 12-24-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lubeguy (Post 524671)
looking for someone with a wayne due subframe putting an ls1 in it and the clearance is an issue i seen pictures and it looks like the later version might be higher to the center of the motor mount from the crossmember if someone has an ls in that subframe i need a measurement from the flat of the crossmember to the center of the motormount bolt thanks



#1 -- If you haven't bought the Wayne Due sub yet -- there's FAR FAR better subs out there.


SpeedTech
Art Morrison -- Wayne Due "version"
DSE
ChassisWorks
TCI
Our own Mister "CoolWelder62"

130fe 12-24-2013 10:25 AM

Contact Z06vette (Scott), he has done this conversion in his 69.

lubeguy 12-24-2013 11:34 AM

Thanks already have everything just going to raise the mounts how far is the question

redefined 12-24-2013 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 524685)
#1 -- If you haven't bought the Wayne Due sub yet -- there's FAR FAR better subs out there.


SpeedTech
Art Morrison -- Wayne Due "version"
DSE
ChassisWorks
TCI
Our own Mister "CoolWelder62"

I never see Heidts listed when people discuss this, is there a reason?

GregWeld 12-24-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redefined (Post 524758)
I never see Heidts listed when people discuss this, is there a reason?



My "GUESS" is just by looking at it -- it's based on Mustang II suspension settings -- the others are Corvette C-5 or C-6


I'm not trying to make the comparison so am not going to go check out all the various manufacturers to figure out who's making what... so this is just an unedumakated opinion that may not be valid at all.

Z06vette 12-24-2013 03:44 PM

wayne due
 
My wayne due is an older version I believe. I bought it used quite a while ago, and it was originally set up for a big block. I had no issues with depth. I acutally cut the frame stands and shortened them to get the motor and trans down to 3 degrees from the 5 it was sitting at. I also had trouble getting the motor mounts lined up, as the stands were too close together and would bottom in the mounts, not allowing it to set down far enough to line the bolt holes up. I addressed this at same time that the mounts were shortened. Have you test fit the motor? If so post up some pics & lets see where youre running into issues. I'm using the stock F-body pan, if that helps you.
Scott

lubeguy 12-25-2013 11:19 AM

i have a mast and a stock f body pan neither will work there hitting the rack the engine has to move up the measurement from the crossmember to the center is 6" thanks for the help

71RS/SS396 12-25-2013 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron in SoCal (Post 524680)
Man for a second that was tough, but I ran it through my Snopp Dogg translator and I think I know what you mean:

http://www.gizoogle.net/textilizer.php

lookin fo' one of mah thugs wit a wayne due subframe puttin a ls1 up in it n' tha clearizzle be a issue i peeped pictures n' it be lookin like tha later version might be higher ta tha center of tha motor mount from tha crossmember if one of mah thugs has a ls up in dat subframe i need a measurement from tha flat of tha crossmember ta tha center of tha motormount bolt props

Sorry man, can't help. :D

Merry Christmas though! :cheers:

X2
I have no idea what he's asking

Vince@Meanstreets 12-25-2013 11:45 AM

pictures? we had a C5 bat pan on ours and it cleared...like to see your frame perches. Maybe a big block frame?

WSSix 12-25-2013 01:01 PM

He has a Wayne Due subframe. He's using an LSx engine with both the Mast and Fbody pans. The engine is hitting the front cross member when he tries to put the engine in place. He has seen other, possibly later versions, of the same subframe where it appears that the engine mounts are higher up in the subframe there by raising the engine. He'd like to know if someone can give him a height measurement from the top of the cross member to the engine stand on the frame if they happen to have a Wayne Due subframe also.

Fairly straight forward question really. Then again, I'm from the south and we talk "funny".

No one ask me to translate Cajun though. I can't do it. What can I say? A man has his limitations.

Che70velle 12-25-2013 05:24 PM

Well done trey!

Z06vette 12-25-2013 05:47 PM

I'll try to measure mine if I can fit a tape up in there. Give me a few days unless someone gets back to you sooner. I know mine is an early wayne due, and it was set up for a big block. I cant remember the exact figures, but I probably cut the stands down on mine about 1.5-2" going on memory alone. I lowered it as much as possible before the pan hit the rack.
Scott

lubeguy 12-25-2013 06:58 PM

Thanks trey my writing sometimes doesn't come out like i want it I've had two brain surgerys (for real) and I'm a mechanic but you got it so thank you and I would take all help thanks everyone

Ron in SoCal 12-25-2013 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lubeguy (Post 524908)
Thanks trey my writing sometimes doesn't come out like i want it I've had two brain surgerys (for real) and I'm a mechanic but you got it so thank you and I would take all help thanks everyone

Hey Lube, I want you to know I was just taking an opportunity to try and make people smile, hopefully including yourself. I knew what you were asking and meant no offense by my joke which seems kinda lame right now.

I have an Art Morrison and know how an LS fits on my sub. Feel free to PM if you'd like to compare notes.

God bless and Merry Xmas! :cheers:

lubeguy 12-26-2013 10:23 AM

Its all good my wife says that it doesn't always get put into words how I want to say it so I wanted people to know.thanks

dontlifttoshift 12-26-2013 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 524763)
My "GUESS" is just by looking at it -- it's based on Mustang II suspension settings -- the others are Corvette C-5 or C-6
.

Anything in the Heidts catalog under the Pro-G line is not MII but is a clean sheet design using their forged tall dropped A/F/X spindle. Nearly all aftermarket subframes use a MII rack and pinion assembly.

Most other subframes are also clean sheet designs even though they may use C5/6 corvette components like uprights and/or control arms.

In most cases you will find dimensions to be very close from manufacture to manufacture and the major differences will be in cost/quality of components used.


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