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tmadden 01-21-2014 05:38 PM

Car tv shows
 
Been talking with my boys. I realize that the redneck show displays our hobby the best but I usually watch it on mute. LOL
My favorites are
Graveyard Cars
Counting Cars
Overhaulin'
Chasing classic cars
Car Chasers
Search and Restore
Powerblock

What you think?

69c4x11 01-22-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tmadden (Post 530658)
Been talking with my boys. I realize that the redneck show displays our hobby the best but I usually watch it on mute. LOL
My favorites are
Graveyard Cars
Counting Cars
Overhaulin'
Chasing classic cars
Car Chasers
Search and Restore
Powerblock

What you think?

How could you leave out the frigging Joke, Gas Monkey garage / Rawlings,, It makes me sick,, and what is the name of the Desert guys?? Their junk is also a Joke,,, I'm all in on Chip/Overhaulin:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

TheJDMan 01-22-2014 06:51 PM

What's the new one with Jessie James, Auston Speed or something like that. The episodes I have seen of that show are pretty good. Love him or hate him, Jessie is a true fabricator.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-23-2014 01:12 AM

he makes his own tools to make material to make parts to make bikes.

I tried to watch Graveyard cars but that guy is such a prick I had to turn it off... and I love 70's Mopars. (BTW The Phantasm Cuda' is my all time dream movie car) I'd watch ass monkey before that show.

My fav's, not in order

Chasing classic cars
Counting cars (even though its scripted)
Rides (even though the narrator can put Carrot top on an eight ball to sleep)
American hot rod (till they made Liz cry, girl power!)
Fast and loud (since they moved to the new shop)
Extreme 4x4 (All time favorite)
Car chasers (even though Jeffs wife reminds me of my 4th grade teacher that use to yell at me.)
Dream Car Garage (fricken show got cancelled)

69c4x11 01-23-2014 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 531014)
he makes his own tools to make material to make parts to make bikes.

I tried to watch Graveyard cars but that guy is such a prick I had to turn it off... and I love 70's Mopars. (BTW The Phantasm Cuda' is my all time dream movie car) I'd watch ass monkey before that show.

My fav's, not in order

Chasing classic cars
Counting cars (even though its scripted)
Rides (even though the narrator can put Carrot top on an eight ball to sleep)
American hot rod (till they made Liz cry, girl power!)
Fast and loud (since they moved to the new shop)
Extreme 4x4 (All time favorite)
Car chasers (even though Jeffs wife reminds me of my 4th grade teacher that use to yell at me.)
Dream Car Garage (fricken show got cancelled)

No what You mean about those !
How can anyone who has an Iota building cars let them build a car for them or even buy one from them.. Are they being subsidized buy the network ?? I went yesterday to Big Oak and looked over the build of the Dart,, Rawlings is a JOKE The Desert guys are a JOKE,,,

Vince@Meanstreets 01-23-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 69c4x11 (Post 531084)
No what You mean about those !
How can anyone who has an Iota building cars let them build a car for them or even buy one from them.. Are they being subsidized buy the network ?? I went yesterday to Big Oak and looked over the build of the Dart,, Rawlings is a JOKE The Desert guys are a JOKE,,,

I like to laugh and I love a good joke.

Its entertainment.

I agree couldn't watch the desert hacks to the first commercial.

Darrell 01-23-2014 09:41 AM

I love the feel-good stories, I hate all the drama.show me the cars and keep the drama to day time TV, I don't understand who likes the drama

Vince@Meanstreets 01-24-2014 09:48 AM

Thats to get the wife to watch.

Da Rod shop show looks promising. The Billy's like Camaro's too. Lets see how much the producers screw up.

Solid LT1 01-24-2014 10:34 AM

My favorite is Graveyard probably because of all the "Mopar Babble" about codes and broadcast sheets/trim tags. I have to give Worman credit he isn't creating the fantasy that a car can go together quickly and be well built. Overhaulin for me is fiction, I have to think some of these cars are thrashed together to make deadlines and compromises are definitely made in those builds ( I heard rumors of a lawsuit over the 442 build as I recall. )

Assmonkey? When they built the Olds powered T/A they were frigging IDIOTS for not calling GM and getting a LS motor/trans kit especially since they were probably in stock at Scoggin Dickey Chevy, I'm sure GM would have sold one to those guys at cost. The Assmonkey Dale Earnhardt Nomad wasn't very impressive either. Looks like they lost their ass on the F40 and it went to the right guy....Reggie!

Vince@Meanstreets 01-24-2014 03:10 PM

I agree with you there, that car deserved an LSx for the price they charged. Jr's Nomad too.


I feel the F40 build was a sham. Mr. Money pants wanted it built all along and the producers saw a good story to make up.

I love Mopars but I just can't get past Wormans mouth and attitude.

66fury 01-24-2014 04:54 PM

jesse james and foose are geniuses.i like graveyard cars due to my mopar addiction.the assmonkeys guys are entertaining but havent seen anything immpressive as of yet.i think the talent i see posted here is the best fabrication anyone can find and this site inspires me everyday.

RECOVERY ROOM 01-26-2014 09:09 PM

Ass monkey's shouldn't be on Tv. There are better fabricators on this site pro and home built

Sieg 01-26-2014 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 531488)
I love Mopars but I just can't get past Wormans mouth and attitude.

His shop is about 20 blocks from my house. I've been in the shop and waited 20+ minutes to talk with him regarding a local transit system expansion and the impact to his business. While waiting I was playing close attention to his operation and his demeanor with the Mopar fanatics from out of state he was talking with and how he interacted with his employees.

You couldn't pay me to watch his show and no way would I do business with him. :secret:

96z28ss 01-27-2014 11:50 AM

I like Graveyard Carz. I watch it for the comedy aspect of it. He is such a smart ass. Its funny.
It would be like making a show with Rodger at Ironworks with Greg Weld, myself, Doug Renner and a few others. The name calling and the sarcasm would make the show a hit.

OBeer-WAN-Kenobi 01-27-2014 12:00 PM

Gasmonkey would be a lot better if Rawlings wasn't on it. I watch it for some good entertainment. I think Sue is hilarious and I like Aaron and Casey and Tom. The other thing I like about it is that I could do pretty much everything they're doing.

A lot of this stuff is staged, including pretty much every single price negotiation. American Pickers is too. I heard from a guy that was on there that everything was negotiated before hand and the price they said on TV was inflated more than double what it actually changed hands for.

Until they have a show that actually goes through things step by step intead of glossing over everything that's important all a guy can do is watch for entertainment anyway. There's very seldom anything to actually learn from the shows. Even Jesse James show glosses over mostly everything.

I like wheeler dealers as well.

The shows I don't like are Desert car Kings and that one with the owner who rubs me the wrong way. The strict ex-military guy who treats people like dirt.

SSLance 01-27-2014 01:22 PM

I have noticed a trend on the new "powernation" shows... They seem to be trying to cram more projects into each episode and are glossing over more and more all of the time. This disappoints me, I've watched that series of shows since the very first Stacey David's Trucks show.

Speaking of Stacey David, is Gearz on TV again now and if so, what channel?

Did anyone else also watch Shadetree Mechanic and if so did you follow them on as they got more commercialized? I started out with them but the more "produced" they got the less I watched...

I've just recently started watching Fast and Loud and for entertainment's sake, I like it...but the tech on the show is pretty low tech and I often see things that I KNOW I could do better in my own little shop with my self taught wrench training.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-27-2014 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 532091)
I have noticed a trend on the new "powernation" shows... They seem to be trying to cram more projects into each episode and are glossing over more and more all of the time. This disappoints me, I've watched that series of shows since the very first Stacey David's Trucks show.

Speaking of Stacey David, is Gearz on TV again now and if so, what channel?

Did anyone else also watch Shadetree Mechanic and if so did you follow them on as they got more commercialized? I started out with them but the more "produced" they got the less I watched...

I've just recently started watching Fast and Loud and for entertainment's sake, I like it...but the tech on the show is pretty low tech and I often see things that I KNOW I could do better in my own little shop with my self taught wrench training.

and how buyers operate during negotiations.

gearheads78 01-27-2014 02:00 PM

I have first hand experience with the Desert Dog guys work. A guy brought me his car that was built there to sort out a few mechanical issues. At 10 feet away its slick nice looking car. Once I got under and inside it was some of the worst fiberglass and bondo rust bucket cover up jobs i have even seen. I told him to sell it for what ever he can get before he hits a big bump in the highway and the 1/4's fall off.

Vince@Meanstreets 01-27-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 531414)
Thats to get the wife to watch.

Da Rod shop show looks promising. The Billy's like Camaro's too. Lets see how much the producers screw up.

Looks like another bust

69c4x11 01-29-2014 09:15 AM

Rawlings /Assmonkey TA,,, Did you notice how greasy they were when they pulled the engine on the car ?? Now get real !! These asses are building a SHOW car tribute,, and they pull the engine 2 times and they look like they have been to a upickit junk yard,and crawled under a leaking junk TA... No way should there be that much oil grime under a Halfass decent ,home build,,,,

SSLance 01-29-2014 09:18 AM

Along the same lines...with the Detroit Muscle build of their give away Red TA...I was shuddering at the thought of them bolting all of that new suspension stuff up to that nasty old undercarriage. :badidea:

They used to be pretty good about a good cleanup and paint even if rattlecan while things were apart, but they slapped that bad boy back together in a hurry with almost no prep and paint underneath.

That bothered me...

Tuske427 01-29-2014 07:33 PM

Mud, Sweat and Gears
 
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Wow, lots of bashing of the shows on this thread- here's your chance to "put up or shut up" ha ha

A coworker sent this around today. looks like a blast! I just wish I had time to do this...

TheJDMan 01-29-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuske427 (Post 532679)
Wow, lots of bashing of the shows on this thread- here's your chance to "put up or shut up" ha ha

A coworker sent this around today. looks like a blast! I just wish I had time to do this...

Sounds like a remake of "Junkyard Wars".

Tuske427 01-31-2014 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJDMan (Post 532687)
Sounds like a remake of "Junkyard Wars".

I designed some of the toys for that show- we had a license at Jakks Pacific and I made a line of replica vehicles, a competition game called "Junk Jumpin Challenge", and a 2n1 vehicle line we called "super scrappers". We also developed many other concepts that never went through. I also attended a filming of that show when they filmed here in the states. It was the Monster Truck episode with Bob Chandler as the expert consultant. They did some filming up in Sun Valley at one of the junkyards, then the competition was up in Santa Barbara. It was kind of a sham- the show led you to believe the teams really built those vehicles. They didn't. They went through the "pre loaded" yard and pulled some parts, did little more than actually tack weld and mock up the major pieces together. Then a completely different crew came in and actually built up the vehicles. They did this for safety/ insurance reasons and also to guarantee they'd have a vehicle that could actually work at the competition.

Attached is a pic of the toys I made that hit the shelves (and soon the clearance aisles) The worst was how the instructions ended up on top inside the package...

booah 02-01-2014 01:34 PM

I like Big Muscle on you tube and Roadkill as well, real people.

Thenovaguy 02-01-2014 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by booah (Post 533268)
I like Big Muscle on you tube and Roadkill as well, real people.

I second that Roadkill and Big muscle are about as real as it gets. I would rather watch them off YouTube without commercials and without the fluff of all these other cable shows. Just give me what I want tech and cars!!

T.J.

makoshark 02-01-2014 05:03 PM

I like to watch Chop Cut Rebuild. That show focuses on the car and not the BS drama that many of the other shows have. If you're going to have a show about building cars, then show the build.

IMPALA MAN 02-01-2014 06:03 PM

Shows
 
Everyone has their things they like or dislike. I also understand the show producers have a certian set of things they want to accomplish. That being said what I dislike about most of these shows is the reputation it gives the "real" builders like we have on this site. I see it as sort of a slap in the face to these builders. What is a customer supposed to think when they watch these shows? Personally I think you would have one of two types of people watching.
1. A person that has no idea what to expect in a true $50,000 a $100,000 build. These people would have the money but not the know how to do the build themselves (no disrespect).
2. People like many of us on this site that maybe don't get to visit shops or get to know them and their work. For this type of customer, I would think these shows would make them very hesitant to take their project to a shop.

I mean only the best builders get on tv....right. If these guys are the best, then wow!

69c4x11 02-02-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IMPALA MAN (Post 533305)
Everyone has their things they like or dislike. I also understand the show producers have a certian set of things they want to accomplish. That being said what I dislike about most of these shows is the reputation it gives the "real" builders like we have on this site. I see it as sort of a slap in the face to these builders. What is a customer supposed to think when they watch these shows? Personally I think you would have one of two types of people watching.
1. A person that has no idea what to expect in a true $50,000 a $100,000 build. These people would have the money but not the know how to do the build themselves (no disrespect).
2. People like many of us on this site that maybe don't get to visit shops or get to know them and their work. For this type of customer, I would think these shows would make them very hesitant to take their project to a shop.

I mean only the best builders get on tv....right. If these guys are the best, then wow!

Do you think any of the Dips even know of the existence of this site ?? They might learn what true builders think about their dumb ass !:lmao:

V8TV 02-02-2014 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IMPALA MAN (Post 533305)
Everyone has their things they like or dislike. I also understand the show producers have a certian set of things they want to accomplish. That being said what I dislike about most of these shows is the reputation it gives the "real" builders like we have on this site. I see it as sort of a slap in the face to these builders. What is a customer supposed to think when they watch these shows? Personally I think you would have one of two types of people watching.
1. A person that has no idea what to expect in a true $50,000 a $100,000 build. These people would have the money but not the know how to do the build themselves (no disrespect).
2. People like many of us on this site that maybe don't get to visit shops or get to know them and their work. For this type of customer, I would think these shows would make them very hesitant to take their project to a shop.

I mean only the best builders get on tv....right. If these guys are the best, then wow!

Agreed, and that the builders are knuckle-dragging, eye-patch wearing dregs of society just trying to make a quick buck on a car. We try to promote the craftsmanship and skill it takes to build a car properly, but many shows to far more harm than good for the image of car enthusiasts.

GregWeld 02-02-2014 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by V8TV (Post 533481)
Agreed, and that the builders are knuckle-dragging, eye-patch wearing dregs of society just trying to make a quick buck on a car. We try to promote the craftsmanship and skill it takes to build a car properly, but many shows do far more harm than good for the image of car enthusiasts.



Agree Kevin.


I don't watch any of them - because if you can't actually learn something - then why bother. If I want to be "entertained" I'll watch something that's entertaining -- watching most of those clowns just makes be shake my head.

GrabberGT 02-03-2014 07:05 AM

I watched Rods n Wheels yesterday and wasnt impressed. More of the same built in drama stuff. Not enough details on the builds. Then they went out and sold a stockish 68 Camaro rebuild for 27k. Sounds way over inflated. They didnt show much of the restoration process but if taking replacement body parts while still in the box to the painter is any indication of the work put into it, I'd hate to see the quality of the finished product.

My favorite is Overhaulin but only the newer ones. The pranks from the original were too much. Jessie really adds a lot to the show. Wish she was still on it.

Powerblock is good but really depends on the projects.

zz430droptop67rs 02-03-2014 09:00 AM

All of them bug me...badly.

The guy with the beard on Gas Monkey Garage is the worst. :poke:

n77nxc 02-03-2014 10:27 AM

I've personally found Powerblock, now Powernation, informative. Xtreme 4x4 is by far my favorite because most of the show is dedicated to tech. Musclecar, Trucks and Horsepower are cool if I'm into whatever they are working on or discussing.

Fast and Loud is pure drama based, just like Street Outlaws. Everything is staged and meant to get you fired up about the next episode. The commercial breaks are insanely long, and I will only watch the shows after they have been recorded via DVR.

Counting Cars - Some episodes are good but most are whatever

Graveyard Cars - Can't get into that show

Chasing Classic cars - Some episodes give me a good automotive history lesson but some are blah.

Stacey David Gearz - Can't believe I'm saying this, but I miss the show. Pretty funny watching him toss old parts across the shop. Some of his projects were pretty cool.

Outlaw Garage - Always good to see what the guys at Austin Speed Shop are working on.

Fantomworks - I can't stand the guys attitude. Just doesn't seem like a guy I'd do business with.

Overhaulin - Cool if I like the car build but never seem to want to watch an episode twice.

FWIW

Vince@Meanstreets 02-05-2014 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SSLance (Post 532516)
Along the same lines...with the Detroit Muscle build of their give away Red TA...I was shuddering at the thought of them bolting all of that new suspension stuff up to that nasty old undercarriage. :badidea:

They used to be pretty good about a good cleanup and paint even if rattlecan while things were apart, but they slapped that bad boy back together in a hurry with almost no prep and paint underneath.

That bothered me...

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMPALA MAN (Post 533305)
Everyone has their things they like or dislike. I also understand the show producers have a certian set of things they want to accomplish. That being said what I dislike about most of these shows is the reputation it gives the "real" builders like we have on this site. I see it as sort of a slap in the face to these builders. What is a customer supposed to think when they watch these shows? Personally I think you would have one of two types of people watching.
1. A person that has no idea what to expect in a true $50,000 a $100,000 build. These people would have the money but not the know how to do the build themselves (no disrespect).
2. People like many of us on this site that maybe don't get to visit shops or get to know them and their work. For this type of customer, I would think these shows would make them very hesitant to take their project to a shop.

I mean only the best builders get on tv....right. If these guys are the best, then wow!

Quote:

Originally Posted by V8TV (Post 533481)
Agreed, and that the builders are knuckle-dragging, eye-patch wearing dregs of society just trying to make a quick buck on a car. We try to promote the craftsmanship and skill it takes to build a car properly, but many shows to far more harm than good for the image of car enthusiasts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrabberGT (Post 533680)
I watched Rods n Wheels yesterday and wasnt impressed. More of the same built in drama stuff. Not enough details on the builds. Then they went out and sold a stockish 68 Camaro rebuild for 27k. Sounds way over inflated. They didnt show much of the restoration process but if taking replacement body parts while still in the box to the painter is any indication of the work put into it, I'd hate to see the quality of the finished product.

My favorite is Overhaulin but only the newer ones. The pranks from the original were too much. Jessie really adds a lot to the show. Wish she was still on it.

Powerblock is good but really depends on the projects.

You guys seem to be missing the difference between couple grand flippers and $25K average build shops with top craftsmen and a $150-$350K build high end shop.
If you pay a guy $275 to swap out a trans, odds are he isnt going to degrease and paint the underside of your car, you'd be lucky if he washes your crossmember off before putting it back on.

SSLance 02-05-2014 04:20 AM

Well, the only thing I relate it too...is how I would do the job in MY SHOP...

And by the method I learned largely by watching their shows in prior years.

The type of builds that I watched Muscle car and Trucks do over the years that I liked the most and learned the most from were those that took more elbow grease and time to perform than cubic dollars.

I realize they need to do a little bit of everything to please a larger audience, I would just rather not see them cut corners to speed a project up. Anyone can bolt a bunch of high dollar parts on a nasty base and call it good.

I'm still watching the PowerNation shows though...best of the best on TV right now.

GrabberGT 02-09-2014 07:05 AM

I watched "Car Fix" yesterday with Lou Santiago and Jared Zimmerman. Its a good Powerblock style show. They just started a ProTouring 2nd Gen Camaro. Should be pretty good. Judging from previous episodes, there should be plenty of tech info shared.

Vince@Meanstreets 02-09-2014 10:22 AM

its good they let Lou talk like a normal guy.

DBasher 02-09-2014 11:16 AM

Roadkill on YouTube is pretty entertaining. What was the show that Boyd had, seems that was the beginning of the end for TV car shows.

Dan

SSLance 02-09-2014 11:32 AM

Thanks for the heads up, I just set the DVR to record Car Fix. Always liked Lou when he was the host of Musclecar. Is Jared the one that was with him when he was on Musclecar as well?


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