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68LS1 03-26-2014 12:59 AM

1970 Rally Sport Camaro - Pro Touring
 
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After many years of talking about this one, it is underway. Plan is modern protouring style.

LS3 (650hp), Magnum T56, 12 Bolt with 3.7 gears
Tubbed, Detroit Speed Front Subframe & Quadralink.
Wheels (currently ) Forgeline GZ3, 18 x 10 front wearing 275/35 tyres, 18 x 12 back, wearing 325/30 tyres.
Colour, tba (not red).

I have commissioned Ben Hermance to do a design rendering, http://www.hermancedesign.com/, will post once happy with it

I heard from Bonnevile Engineering today that DSE suspension and LS3 engine was all OK to use

The car arrived at bodyworks on Saturday

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And in a well timed arrival, the new body panels arrived today (thanks Classic Custom Imports), quarter panels, inner wheelhouse, cowl vent panel, trunk, floor pan patch panels & DSE Mini Tubs. All body panels are AMD, quality looks very good, now for the fit test.

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68LS1 03-26-2014 01:37 AM

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Purchased car disassembled. Had been torn down and media blasted. At least this way I know what I am getting, and with what I am planning there wouldn't have been much left of a nice car anyway.
Car had supposedly lived its life in Fresno. Underneath was very solid
Major rust area was cowl area, there are some other small rust areas, lower tulip panel and pinholes in front floor plans near toe board. Assume had a leaky windscreen
Quarter panels are being replaced due to some previous butchery.

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Flash68 03-26-2014 03:12 AM

Rog is pulling out the big guns
 
Oh yeah getting after it! :superhack:

:bigun2:

tubbed69 03-26-2014 03:41 AM

looks like a pretty solid car to start with,on the east coast we would love to have cars that nice to start with,good luck

68LS1 03-26-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 543423)
Oh yeah getting after it! :superhack:

:bigun2:

You betcha, hoping to bring it to USA for 2017 Power Tour.

68LS1 03-26-2014 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tubbed69 (Post 543424)
looks like a pretty solid car to start with,on the east coast we would love to have cars that nice to start with,good luck

Thanks

glassman 03-26-2014 08:32 PM

Is this one a left hand drive? looks like it based on the firewall....

68LS1 03-26-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by glassman (Post 543623)
Is this one a left hand drive? looks like it based on the firewall....

Yes, left hand drive and staying that way

glassman 03-26-2014 09:11 PM

Very nice, i will be looking forward to watching this one come together as well...as you can tell i love 2nd gen's but love the 1st gen's just as much. Pretty much a Camaro guy, who loves Mustang's too, well, pretty much a car guy...

68LS1 04-22-2014 02:59 AM

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OK, so we lost a few posts here, thanks to everyone for their previous input

Had renderings done by Ben Hermance

Round 1
Brushed Bumpers
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Dark Bumpers
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Revision 1 - slightly darker body colour & raised a bit, to actual height
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68LS1 04-22-2014 03:10 AM

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Round 2 - Including rear concepts

Brushed Bumper - with dark grille surround
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Dark Bumpers
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Ben added a colour coded bumper version
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I had Ben do a revision to Brushed Bumper, adding dark tail panel & different exhaust exit treatment

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68LS1 04-22-2014 03:23 AM

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After much feedback, all very positive, I decided to move forward with Concept 1A, much as I liked them all I felt this was nicer balance. I really liked black bar front, not so much back, opposite for color coded version (and Greg Weld liked it best :D ). But I will seriously consider doing 3 different sets of bumpers to trial on car when the time comes.

Had Ben do another update, put Grip Rebel rims on Concept 1, pulled Z28 stripes back to factory position, moved vents forward, color coded door handles, so this is now "final" rendering.

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Ben has been great to work with, highly recommend him to anyone thinking of getting a rendering done

glassman 04-22-2014 08:20 PM

I like the way the hood looks better this way. I like the vents going closer to the nose and the factory stripes look better not so far up in the nose imo. Looks great.

And i'm also with you on the rear bumpers, i'm leaning towards colored, but the jury's still out....going be a fun build to watch. 68's 69's and 70's are my favorite F body's

68LS1 05-01-2014 05:13 AM

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The journey begins. Rusty cowl out, front floor plans out. Started on removing quarters.
Good news, no more ugly found. Once rusty bits are all removed, car will be media blasted again and then primed. Good opportunity to get to some unreachable places to give a protective coating

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Next container with parts due here May 21, but plenty to do till then

syborg tt 05-01-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 68LS1 (Post 546790)
Round 2 - Including rear concepts

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I love the exhaust on this one and when it moves around it won't rattle on the car.

Plus it looks bad ass

WSSix 05-02-2014 04:56 PM

Good luck! It's going to look great when finished.

68LS1 05-20-2014 05:00 AM

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Well we did find some fugly. When they modded the quarters they also hacked in to the trunk drop offs. But as was commented they did such a good job with the fibreglass it was hard to tell until quarter panel was unpicked. The evidence of how much was hacked off

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Unfortunately I was unable to get AMD drop offs, the Taiwanese ones don't appear to fit great, but won't be seen

68LS1 05-20-2014 05:05 AM

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The progress, drivers side floor pan in place

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Outer Cowl Panel in place

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Upper Cowl Panel in place

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the before

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The outer cowl panel is not AMD, note how good the fit on passenger side with original outer cowl panel

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verses how poor the non original outer cowl panel fits to upper cowl

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The shop is knocking over a few "paying" jobs and hope to get really stuck in to it next week

Rear quarter was trial fitted and appears to fit very well.

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Now trunk drop offs are here, can do quarters and wheel tubs, also decided to replace trunk floor, rather than repair a few rust holes.

waynieZ 05-20-2014 06:15 PM

I love the rendering! Its going to look great.

LS7 Z/28 05-20-2014 08:50 PM

That rendering is definitely sweet. I like that color a lot, good luck with it.

68LS1 05-21-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 551578)
I love the rendering! Its going to look great.

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Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 551615)
That rendering is definitely sweet. I like that color a lot, good luck with it.

Thanks Guys

syborg tt 05-21-2014 08:41 AM

I can't wait to see this one on the ground in primer.

Are you going to be hand making the scoops on the hood ?

68LS1 05-21-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 551686)
I can't wait to see this one on the ground in primer.

Are you going to be hand making the scoops on the hood ?

Me to :)

Bonnet Vents are an Anvil product, http://anvilauto.com/products/camaro...ood-vents.html

syborg tt 05-23-2014 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by 68LS1 (Post 551780)
Me to :)

Bonnet Vents are an Anvil product, http://anvilauto.com/products/camaro...ood-vents.html

very cool

68LS1 06-04-2014 11:25 PM

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Popped in take a look at the progress

Floor pans

From last week

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Yesterday

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68LS1 06-04-2014 11:45 PM

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Cowl & Firewall

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68LS1 06-04-2014 11:48 PM

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And most of the cutting has been done on right hand side for tubs

Holes, hopefully wheel tubs next week:excited:

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WSSix 06-05-2014 07:22 AM

Nice progress, Roger. You'll be in paint before too long.

Vince@Meanstreets 06-05-2014 02:06 PM

looking good!!!!!

68LS1 06-11-2014 07:53 AM

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One tub in, quick photo for DSE tub v stock tub comparo

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What are the options for 335/30 18 tire with matching 265/35 18 for primarily street driven car?

syborg tt 06-11-2014 09:53 AM

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What are the options for 335/30 18 tire with matching 265/35 18 for primarily street driven car?
BFG seems to be the go-to tire

65_LS1_T56 06-11-2014 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by syborg tt (Post 555556)
BFG seems to be the go-to tire

265 Rivals are not (quite) available yet. They were due out early spring but have been pushed back to July last I heard. I had a set on order and finally caved and went with Bridgestone RE11's in the front. Hopefully they will have them available soon.

68LS1 08-01-2014 01:58 AM

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Well the boys did some construction work on the shop and built the Camaro it's own little room :thumbsup:

Right quarter now on permanently, left quarter and drop off removed, left mini tub in place. going to look like a car again very shortly.

QUADRALink, Moser 12bolt, Vaporworkz tank, Magnum T56, LS9 Clutch have all arrived :ups:

Subframe, Kore3 Z06 Brakes and some smaller parts on the water now, due here in next 2 weeks.

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Rick D 08-01-2014 07:04 AM

Looking nice Rodger, what qtrs did you use? I need to maybe change (haven't decided yet) one of my, I just build a new lower section.

68LS1 08-01-2014 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick D (Post 563658)
Looking nice Rodger, what qtrs did you use? I need to maybe change (haven't decided yet) one of my, I just build a new lower section.

We used AMD quarters, panel beater was very happy with the fit.

All the AMD stuff has been a good fit. The only bits, outer cowl & trunk drop offs, that I couldn't get from AMD, had fit issues.

Jon Clough 10-10-2014 06:52 PM

Hey Roger,
Great progress! I have a 70 Camaro that needs all of the stuff you are going through too and have a mountain of parts. It is great to see a thread with progress, great photos, etc. Your comments about fitment are appreciated.
I have the DSE tubs, AME front and AME rear triangulated 4-bar to do too. My plan is to pull off the quarters, put in the DSE mini's, put in the new quarters, put in the new tailpan then tackle the rear subframe and floor rebuilt after the body work. Let me know what you think of the order of things based upon your experiences.
Best of luck with it !!

Flash68 10-10-2014 07:04 PM

hey Roger -- what's up man! :hello:

:cheers:

68LS1 10-12-2014 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon Clough (Post 573584)
Hey Roger,
Great progress! I have a 70 Camaro that needs all of the stuff you are going through too and have a mountain of parts. It is great to see a thread with progress, great photos, etc. Your comments about fitment are appreciated.
I have the DSE tubs, AME front and AME rear triangulated 4-bar to do too. My plan is to pull off the quarters, put in the DSE mini's, put in the new quarters, put in the new tailpan then tackle the rear subframe and floor rebuilt after the body work. Let me know what you think of the order of things based upon your experiences.
Best of luck with it !!

Tailpan was very fiddly. If yours can be repaired I would go that way. If not make sure it is identical to the one you remove, check where fuel tank filler joins and outer trunk floor brackets.

We did it one side at a time, just felt it would maintain better rigidity and we had the other side for reference.

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 573588)
hey Roger -- what's up man! :hello:

:cheers:

Hi Dave, just so busy, how you doing? Send me an email with any news.
Camaro needed some parts that we thought could be used, and has been a little slower than hoped for. Pulled engine down for refresh but found some things we didn't like. New pistons, cam and some other pieces, you know the drill.
No USA/SEMA trip at this stage :(. Two large work projects were delayed from October 1 to November 1 launch.
Trying to spend time at the cabin on the river, just back from 4 night stay which was super nice.

68LS1 02-28-2015 08:42 PM

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Well some progress. Body shell has all panels replaced and final welded, and is sprayed in epoxy primer.
DSE subframe also now fitted

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Hopefully all front panels and doors will be installed, and it will go off for installation of, QUADRALink, diff, engine, transmission, subframe connectors. This will conclude required cutting to floor.
Then will continue with assembly for mock up.

Also was able to collect wheels from shipping company yesterday.
Forgeline RB3
Front - 18 x 9.5" with 5.875" backspace
Rear - 18 x 12" with 8" backspace
Satin black Centre with brushed hoop

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Rear tires due here Tuesday, so will get fitted and will be ready for test fitting with diff.

Still need to get radiator, decide on front drive and intake.

Che70velle 02-28-2015 09:07 PM

You've been a busy boy! Looks great. Love what your doing here. My next project will be a 70' camaro. Keep the pics coming.


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