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will69camaro 05-29-2014 02:40 PM

RIP: GM High Tech Performance, Popular Hot Rodding and Camaro Performers
 
Apparently these magazines got cancelled and it was announced today. Huge blow to the magazine industry for our hobby...

William

Jr 05-29-2014 02:41 PM

Damn... Maybe Steve will chime in

NOPANTS68 05-29-2014 03:06 PM

No way. PHR is about all I read. Wow that's beyond lame.

sokoloka 05-29-2014 03:07 PM

Popular Hot Rodding?! That is by far my FAVORITE magazine. I can't believe it.

:(

rickpaw 05-29-2014 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sokoloka (Post 553169)
Popular Hot Rodding?! That is by far my FAVORITE magazine. I can't believe it.

:(

Seriously, PHR too? that's my favorite magazine.

ArisESQ 05-29-2014 03:14 PM

You sure? I was under the impression they just changed their web presence by folding into Super Chevy's website. (according to their facebook page as of yesterday)

will69camaro 05-29-2014 03:23 PM

Just what I heard from a pretty reputable source. Hope someone more in the know can verify and prove me wrong. Like all those magazines...

EBMC 05-29-2014 03:43 PM

Cant say thats a big surprise, I personally havent opened up a Magazine, newspaper or phonebook in years unless its one of our customers cars in the magazine. Sounds harsh but thats reality, its an Online world now.

cjfirstgen 05-29-2014 03:46 PM

I read the staff at Automobile magazine were let go today as well.

http://jalopnik.com/automobile-magaz...tor-1583277569

gearheads78 05-29-2014 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EBMC (Post 553179)
Cant say thats a big surprise, I personally havent opened up a Magazine, newspaper or phonebook in years unless its one of our customers cars in the magazine. Sounds harsh but thats reality, its an Online world now.

Pretty much my thoughts too. I used to live for my magazines to drop each month and read them non stop from cover to cover. Now having the web you have a magazine with unlimited pages with more pictures and material that you could ever read and look at.

waynieZ 05-29-2014 04:19 PM

What happens to our subscription's

LS7 Z/28 05-29-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by waynieZ (Post 553186)
What happens to our subscription's

I'm wondering the same thing if this is true... I really hope not. Camaro Performers is my favorite magazine.

waynieZ 05-29-2014 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 553190)
I'm wondering the same thing if this is true... I really hope not. Camaro Performers is my favorite magazine.

Same here.

tones2SS 05-29-2014 04:47 PM

Yup,...they are gone. It's a shame.
A bunch of Ford magazines are gone as well. LOTS of people laid off today from all those places. I know someone that writes for a Ford magazine and she is pretty bummed out about it.

tmadden 05-29-2014 05:04 PM

Man I just got subscriptions on iPad as a gift last month.

JKnight 05-29-2014 05:07 PM

That's unfortunate. I must have an old soul because I still like looking at the actual magazines. I have active subscriptions to most of the affected publications, so this is very disappointing.

70 tt rustang 05-29-2014 05:20 PM

I better get some kind of refund check from them!
Lame!

Build-It-Break-it 05-29-2014 05:24 PM

To much technology to fast. I'm surprised the newspapers still get printed. No one even physically talks to anyone anymore either, kids don't play outside. Its a world of gadgets we buy of things we don't need then act shocked when things like this happen. I only look at magazines in the store and half the time its full of ads (understandable to pay the bills) . Never anything truly useful anyone can't find on the internet for free tho. Still sad either way.

214Chevy 05-29-2014 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Build-It-Break-it (Post 553206)
...... I only look at magazines in the store and half the time its full of ads

Me too and as far as a prescriptions to any car magazine, I cancelled mines about 7 years ago. Surprised it took this long to happen to magazine/print media with the popularity of the internet. I knew it would happen to magazines just like it did to phone books and some cities news papers.

Che70velle 05-29-2014 06:11 PM

What's a magazine?

hifi875 05-29-2014 06:42 PM

That bites I have subscription to phr and camaro performers

LS7 Z/28 05-29-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Che70velle (Post 553216)
What's a magazine?

You Joke, but what will happen to events like the Popular Hot Rodding muscle car of the year competition, the Hot Rod Power Tour, The Car Craft Summer Nationals and Street Machine Nationals, etc. When the title sponsor is no longer in existence. I hope to be able to attend events like these and I still enjoy reading the magazines.

ccracin 05-29-2014 06:46 PM

I'd really like to know what happens to our subscriptions we paid for in advance. I know it seems insignificant when people are losing jobs, but this is potentially a huge money maker for Source Interlink. Subscriptions are bought and paid for then you just cancel the product. Seems illegal to me. I would happily give my subscription refund to any of those losing a job, but I don't want that company keeping it!

Matt@BOS 05-29-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ccracin (Post 553222)
I'd really like to know what happens to our subscriptions we paid for in advance. I know it seems insignificant when people are losing jobs, but this is potentially a huge money maker for Source Interlink. Subscriptions are bought and paid for then you just cancel the product. Seems illegal to me. I would happily give my subscription refund to any of those losing a job, but I don't want that company keeping it!

I believe your Source Interlink will incorporate the subscription base into that of one of the other magazines, so if you received Camaro Performers you will probably receive Super Chevy instead, or one of the other magazines. I don't know if you can call for a refund, but I imagine they will change your subscription to something else if you already get Super Chevy, for example.

WSSix 05-29-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 553221)
You Joke, but what will happen to events like the Popular Hot Rodding muscle car of the year competition, the Hot Rod Power Tour, The Car Craft Summer Nationals and Street Machine Nationals, etc. When the title sponsor is no longer in existence. I hope to be able to attend events like these and I still enjoy reading the magazines.

This is a good question, Casey. It's going to be interesting to see what happens in the future.

TorqDork 05-29-2014 07:34 PM

Sure about this? Websites are still up and talked to a friend at Edelbrock today and didn't mention it and it's something he would have known.

cjfirstgen 05-29-2014 07:45 PM

Here is the latest:

http://jalopnik.com/heres-how-former...ing-1583470716

Che70velle 05-29-2014 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valve Lash (Post 553221)
You Joke, but what will happen to events like the Popular Hot Rodding muscle car of the year competition, the Hot Rod Power Tour, The Car Craft Summer Nationals and Street Machine Nationals, etc. When the title sponsor is no longer in existence. I hope to be able to attend events like these and I still enjoy reading the magazines.


Yeah, I have no idea. Somebody will step up and cover the cost. There's money to be made in promotions. Of course, Super Chevy Show was a huge deal a couple decades ago...
I didn't mean to sound harsh. I was simply being relevant. These guys are downsizing because there's too many publications covering the same contents, and thanks to the ol' interweb, paper is fading fast.
I have a stack of Hot Rod magazines almost 4' high...
I only read current publications while waiting for the wife at the grocery store. Sad but true.

89 RS 05-29-2014 08:16 PM

Man, if this is true, those are my 3 favorite magazines. Call me old school, but I still like actually getting the magazines and reading them.

cjfirstgen 05-29-2014 08:49 PM

It's true. Read a letter from the CEO of Source Interlink. According to the consolidation list Super Chevy and Hot Rod will still be around.

CRCRFT78 05-29-2014 09:05 PM

So the article says that these magazines will be consolidating to get rid of the redundant subject matter. Hot Rod showed signs of this after their last makeover of the magazine. I don't care that they are consolidating however, I do like having an actual physical item instead of a digital copy. Hell I still read real books, buy actual CDs to listen to and hang real pictures on my walls at home. Not all technology is good technology. What happens when you don't have backups for any of that stuff and your computer or laptop takes a dump or gets stolen then what.

glassman 05-29-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CRCRFT78 (Post 553255)
So the article says that these magazines will be consolidating to get rid of the redundant subject matter. Hot Rod showed signs of this after their last makeover of the magazine. I don't care that they are consolidating however, I do like having an actual physical item instead of a digital copy. Hell I still read real books, buy actual CDs to listen to and hang real pictures on my walls at home. Not all technology is good technology. What happens when you don't have backups for any of that stuff and your computer or laptop takes a dump or gets stolen then what.

Its like when i'm on a flight and they say "please turn off all electronic devices".....i keep read-in my inkstinkin mags....

At one point all of these rags were independent of one another (hence competition)...its like anything else in a free market, you buy up your compete-tiers.


And i've experienced very unreliable subscriptions from iTunes on ALL the mags i electronically subscribed too. Signed up for and paid for a year and about two months later "you must subscribe to see this" After that happened three times, i said "EFF This"......"So as society regresses forward"......As the world burns....

Wissing72 05-29-2014 09:34 PM

Sad to hear. It is an unfortunate reality. I wonder where some of the editors and staff will end up? I met Johnny Hunkins at DelMar, super nice guy.

sokoloka 05-29-2014 09:37 PM

I wonder if there will be anything like a "Final Issue" or something similar for PHR. Absolutely love that magazine.

travmon 05-29-2014 10:30 PM

I am going to need a moment of silence ( R.I.P PHR ). thank you for that moment..technology is cool and all but my laptop is never in the bathroom where my PHR is ! When I fall asleep and my media falls off the bed it only wrinkles a few pages , not a broken screen !.. Not a huge fan of ALL the technology..moderation is a good choice across the board..

Build-It-Break-it 05-30-2014 02:49 AM

Everyone is caught up in this one magazine being canceled which is understandable but what about the actual book stores that have closed down? Barnes and Nobel, borders etc. Whenever I went inside to get a book there was dozens of people reading books and magazines for free, drinking coffee etc. People tend to forget about the people losing money for you not buying those books, myself included. Its like when people go call vendor and ask a bunch of questions about there car, the vendor wastes hours talking to them, then they go buy product from a different vendor just because its a little cheaper? Then wonder why people have to shut down there business or act shocked when they do. Us reading these publications for free in the store cost the people there jobs period. Buy the book or magazine, they make money, people stay employed, simple economics.

bret 05-30-2014 04:09 AM

As a businessman, the print ad format has been in decline for 10 years with increasing intensity. As a hotrodder, I will miss reading these magazines. The ipad version just could not convey the texture that the print version did.

My strongest thoughts are for the people who worked there. They've been thrown into chaos. At a minimum, they'll be reassigned to a new book. At worst...they're on their ass.

As for my subscription money....keep it. Consider it a tiny token contribution to a group of people who improved the quality of my Hotrodding experience. May you all go on to bigger things and our paths will cross again.

CRCRFT78 05-30-2014 05:46 AM

For me its not about that one magazine, its about technology being so great while slowly taking away some of the simple things that are causing the dumbing down of us as a people. I feel bad for those out of work, the same way I felt bad for the gas station attendant whose duties got cut because of self-serve pumps. Or the grocery clerk out of a job because of self-checkout registers. I have tried to read magazines/books on my laptop and for whatever reason I just cant enjoy it the same way I enjoy holding a physical copy. Rant over.

TorqDork 05-30-2014 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bret (Post 553287)
As a businessman, the print ad format has been in decline for 10 years with increasing intensity. As a hotrodder, I will miss reading these magazines. The ipad version just could not convey the texture that the print version did.

My strongest thoughts are for the people who worked there. They've been thrown into chaos. At a minimum, they'll be reassigned to a new book. At worst...they're on their ass.

As for my subscription money....keep it. Consider it a tiny token contribution to a group of people who improved the quality of my Hotrodding experience. May you all go on to bigger things and our paths will cross again.

Bret,

Very well said. I was fortunate enough to be on staff when it was Petersen Publishing and all was well. I had the time of my life when there were budgets and not so many Chiefs taking a slice of the pie. Sadly, the mag I was on also got the ax but the PHR chop is odd. I doubt Hot Rod will cover that segment of the market. Everything started to go to Hell after Petersen sold the company.

GregWeld 05-30-2014 07:16 AM

Life changes.... while some things die - other things are born.

I used to be able to see Mt Rainer when I turned south on Bellevue Way... it was great to see the early morning light turning it pink or purple or both. Haven't been able to see it for several years now since they began putting up high rises...People live there, and there are many shops etc on the street level, and people are hired to clean and mow and manage these buildings. Not to mention the people that worked a couple years or more building them.

I used to bitch about that.


I live in Bellewood FARMS....


Oh yeah --- it used to be farmland... orchards actually. Think the farmers around that farm bitched when the owner sold it to some developer and he ripped out all the trees and built houses back in 1950?? I'm certain they did. All that traffic (there were 10 homes built)!


I'm truly sorry if you are in the print media business and didn't see this coming... I really don't know what to tell ya. I'm not even in the business and I could see it coming. I still have all manor of subscriptions -- and they pile up around where I sit - and on the nightstand... rarely, if ever, opened.


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