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Sanchez Garage 09-22-2014 08:52 PM

Need help with spc upper arms
 
I have spc upper a arms, ats stock height, stock lower arms. I purchased this some years ago. My issues from the pics is the upper arms are resting on the frame. My hours don't allow me to call marcus and just wondering if anyone here can help. I switch the upper ball joint to a tall to see if that would help which it did not. These are on. 71 chevelle. http://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...pscbqtwaq9.jpghttp://i406.photobucket.com/albums/p...psdnwqdhay.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets 09-23-2014 12:37 AM

normal if you are on jack stands. ie: not resting with the weight of the car on the tires.

Sanchez Garage 09-23-2014 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 570969)
normal if you are on jack stands. ie: not resting with the weight of the car on the tires.

It's on the ground no jack stands

speedjohnston 09-23-2014 05:22 AM

You can use an airline cable (carefully routed) or get a shorter stroke shock.

dhutton 09-23-2014 05:26 AM

Looks like a bare frame. You need the car fully assembled and at ride height before worrying about this. As it sits now the springs are not compressed under their normal load.

What springs did you use?

Don

speedjohnston 09-23-2014 05:27 AM

I think we were posting at almost the same time. If its allready on the ground and thats ride height, you may have to notch the frame to make that work. I have a similar set up but they are not that close to the frame at ride height.

speedjohnston 09-23-2014 05:29 AM

It may be my lower arms that help make it work.
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speedjohnston 09-23-2014 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 570977)
Looks like a bare frame. You need the car fully assembled and at ride height before worrying about this. As it sits now the springs are not compressed under their normal load.

What springs did you use?

Don

100%. Car has to be at ride height before its an issue.

nicks67ca 09-23-2014 05:45 AM

I also believe the cross shaft is flipped. It looks like the the offset where the arm bolts to the cross shaft needs to be flipped. The slight offset should give you more clearance to the frame.

Vince@Meanstreets 09-23-2014 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sanchez Garage (Post 570974)
It's on the ground no jack stands

sorry, meant with weight on the suspension. suspension at mid travel. That upper ball joint should be higher than that.

forcepower 09-23-2014 07:58 PM

Your control arms look to be on the wrong side. The bolt on the ball joint plate should be to the rear. To gain more clearance you could bolt the ball joint in from the bottom. What ball joint are you using? The best thing would be to find the time to call marcus or at least e-mail him. He might have a recommendation for a different ball joint plate.

Marcus SC&C 09-25-2014 09:20 AM

Those arms are older models configured for ATS *TALL* spindles. With the tall spindles the upper arms will be angled upward toward the ball joints 8-10 degrees at recommended ride height, giving the arms lots of clearance. To allow for a wider range of ride height adjustment later versions of the arms use vertically offset one piece forged pivots that give the arms even more clearance. You can retrofit these to your older arms. We still have a few left in stock. When running these arms with stock spindles and tall ball joints we use a tall lower and extra tall severe duty upper for best geometry and clearance. You can`t (well, you shouldn`t) use tall lowers with the ATS short spindles because it will ruin the bump steer curve but you can use the xtall uppers. If the taller ball joints you bought are only +.5" you can (and should) go for the Xtall. The geometry will be substantially improved as well as the clearance. As awesome as the tall ATS spindles are the short ones from years ago are sort of black sheep. Without the geometry change of the taller ball joints your car has had the bump steer dealt with but the camber curves and roll center height/migration basically remain bone stock so the xtall uppers would be a very good idea anyway.


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