Onebad78ta
 

Here are a few pics before the car was moved to metalworks classics to complete the car,It took a while to get the hack working on it to release the car but at least it's finally out and can get some quality work done.i am expecting the motor from BUTLER PERFORMANCE in a couple weeks and should get some dyno pulls on video so that should be cool,,,,,I don't mean to complain on here but sometimes I need to vent and ask for opinions on time to do some of the fab work because I know when I'm being scammed like the 36 hours he charged to do the work you see on the roll cage,,he said it had nascar side bars and an X brace in the back and it's not there WTF,,,PLUS NOT 1 tube is welded,,I'm sure some of you guys are capable of doing a complete cage install in 36 hours or am I wrong,,,this is where opinions would be appriciated

clean car, will follow this one

Thanks,,,the nice stuff is comming soon

nascar door bars? i think not..... His cage does not look all that bad though unless the pictures make it look better then it really is. Does suck to hear he charged you what he did.

Look forward to seeing your build. Glad to see you getting it in the right hands.

Thanks again ,,yea All I had seen was his bill with him saying he did nascar sidebars and an X brace in the rear and as you can see it's not there,,,So I about went through the roof when metalworks posted pics of my car on there sight and I saw that not only did he not do the side bars or X brace but he only tacked the cage and didn't do one weld,,,I paid over 3 thousand dollars for this so I'm pretty upset,,,BUT at least it's in good hands now like you said,,and it should be pretty smooth from now on.

Whose rear frame rails are those? Maybe it's the angles of the picture but they don't look like they kick up high enough to bring the car down much any more. They actually look like they are lower than the factory frame rails.

Its an Art Morrison Rear clip,yes I have been very worried about that,,,its not at the ride height I told the guy I wanted it at and like you said it doesnt look like it can go lower,,and thats not something I am ok with ,,I told him I wanted about 1" clearance between the lip off the fender and the tire,,not sure what to do at this point.The guy who measured it Ron Pircey at Ron Pircey Enterprises has done all kinds of very messed up things and thats why I was forced to stop him working on the car and had a different comany come and take it,,hopefully the clip doesnt need to be replaced.I was hoping maybe the frame could be notched and move the coilover mount up as much as it can go but I might be worried about the integrity of the frame.

I would definitely take a step back and get everything measured. It's going to suck to have to redo anything but it will suck worse to redo it later yet.

yea the car is in a good shop now and they are going to go over it and make sure he put it in ok and if it will be able to be lowered to the right stance,,,I am just amazed at the crap Ive had to go through,,, my paint was perfect,and if you look close it even looks like they stole the little firebird emblem out of my horn button.....SOME PEOPLE,,,,And to think I paid this clown 17k

Butler Performance got the Dyno numbers for me and the new engine makes 655hp and 670 torque!!!!!!!!!!!! Will post up the video asap:morepower

Very nice!

Update
 

Motor install is underway

78 ta
 

What are you doing for oil starvation?... special pan?...
I never could get one to work even with trap doors,etc or
so called road race pan.. if you are dry sump then ok
if not I would suggest accusump... even on my MR-1
block with Roland racing heads that drain back better
I could still see pressure drop.. fried many a bearing
on cheaper engines and did not care.. now with a real
motor I worry and still live on the pressure gauge

Bob

Call up Greg at butler he can answer your questions.

78 ta
 

If all they put on it is the road race pan
they sell I have one and in real hard cornering
it does not work. Just saying

Bob

Pro tour T/A
 

Things are really comming together now :whenitsdone:

looking good!

I saw your car in person today. The motor looks awesome sitting in there!
:thumbsup:

Are you in oregon ??? what were you doing at metalworks?? are they building you a car ??

if you are thinking about having them do some work for you,,,I give them an A+,,,awsome bunch of guys,,,

Yup! I'm in Oregon.

I have a 69' Nova they acid striped and are currently installing front to back DSE suspension with some modifications. Who knows what else will end up happening.... :G-Dub:

I agree. The crew is great. The experience so far has been top notch.

I agree 100%,,,your car s/b awsome with that stuff ,,what motor are you gonna run

No motor decision yet...all I know is LS something. I'm pot committed since my new trans tunnel, crossmember, etc.. is all being built around my magnum trans and an LS mockup motor.

Did you get a chance to look at the front suspension on my car,,,how did it look? I wish I didn't live so far away from them so I could look at the progress ,,,but it's obvious they are working away on it

Sorry man. Didn't get a look. I just took a glance at the motor as I was walking by on my way out.

Hard for the eyes to look past that beast.

I'm sure I'll be down there again soon-ish. Soon-ish being over the next month. If you want me to snap any pictures for you of anything just let me know!

Yea that would be great,,,I would really appreciate that,,it will probably have a lot more completed then too...

That engine looks like serious fun

thanks alot,,it should be a good grocery getter.

Update
 

Progress update,,:thumbsup:

Coming along nicely! Glad to see that working out positively for you.

Thanks,Yea I couldn't be happier,,it will be done before I know it,just need the new 1" drop spindles from global west.so we can get the new 9.5"FIKSES on the front and get the ride height ,,,,then finish the AME 4link mods,and tin work.

Pics
 

Ride height

Rear Ride height,,,the fronts going to be dropped another 1.5"

Bad ta
 

Getting close. Looking good

Bob

Yeah, I'm envious. I need to bring my rear down to be more like your car. It looks great.

thanks alot.

My builder wants to rebuild the front section of my cage,,they want the bends to follow the widow pillar and lower the side bars,,It's a bummer but I have to agree,,What do you guys think?

Take a look at the link in my sig(track car build) at how DSE did my side bars. The lower side bar is kicked out and layed into the wire duct in the rocker and also stitched welded to the rocker. It also looks like you need to either lower your seat, raise the halo, or maybe both, your head is above the bar.

That's not me in the car that's the fabricator,,they sent me pictures after they called to show me how it looked,,HE Is taller than.me ,yea I like your cage and the way the tubes align nicely with the lines of the window pillar and the rocker lines ,,,that's how mine should be and that is what the builder wants to do,,I don't want people comming to look at my car and say wow nice BUT ,,,why is the bend in the pillar bars not bent so it follows the lines of the body..we just think it looks bad.by the way I love your camaro,,NICE

that stance looks really great