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TBM Brakes 01-20-2015 01:00 PM

TBM Brakes: Ask us a question!
 
Do you have a question about brakes? We're here. Ask us.

Obviously we'd prefer the questions be about our stuff, but we'd be more than happy to answer any brake question you may have. ;)

We want to be a resource for you guys!

We've put brakes on everything from mopeds to Monster trucks!

dontlifttoshift 01-20-2015 04:01 PM

Brake pads.

Are all of your pads compatible with each other? Can I swap your pads with your pads without changing or resurfacing rotors?

Is there one pad that does it all within your lineup? Street driving, autox, and track days.

TBM Brakes 01-20-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dontlifttoshift (Post 590754)
Brake pads.

Are all of your pads compatible with each other? Can I swap your pads with your pads without changing or resurfacing rotors?

Is there one pad that does it all within your lineup? Street driving, autox, and track days.

Great questions!!


If we had a pad that was excellent under cold, medium and hot operating temperatures and it also made no noise or dust...We'd be millionaires. Every compound has its purpose.

That being said, our #3 compound pad is the closest thing to a "have your cake and eat it too pad". It is very linear in torque output from 300-1200 degrees. Making it great for spirited street driving and track days. I have been told that it does make some noise on the street under low temperatures. The Viper community love this pad because they will drive to the track, run on the track, then head home...all on the same pad.

It doesn't matter if you are switching compounds or changing out pads that are the same compound, we highly recommended scuffing the pad swept surface of the rotor with a rotor hone or some 60 - 80 grit sandpaper. This will remove the transfer layer from the previous pads and allow the new pads to have a clean, grippy, surface to lay there own transfer layer.

cwylie 01-20-2015 06:15 PM

What kind front brake packages do you make for first gen Camaros with stock type spindles? Street car with occasional track use.

Hydratech® 01-20-2015 07:37 PM

Supercharged Braking
 
Have you gentleman had any experience with power steering driven high output hydroboost applications? We have recently had some inquiries regarding TBM with Hydratech supercharged braking questions lately (so you must be making some waves out in the industry to show up on our radar). Most come to us after they have exhausted every known conventional wisdom with their brake efforts, finding happiness after finally installing our high output hydraulic brake assist systems. It is our experience that enthusiasts CAN have their cake and eat it too, in that they can run a 'hard' long lasting / less brake dusting pad and still accomplish what they need to do in even the most aggressive circumstances they put their vehicles up against. :thumbsup:

TBM Brakes 01-21-2015 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydratech (Post 590792)
Have you gentleman had any experience with power steering driven high output hydroboost applications? We have recently had some inquiries regarding TBM with Hydratech supercharged braking questions lately (so you must be making some waves out in the industry to show up on our radar). Most come to us after they have exhausted every known conventional wisdom with their brake efforts, finding happiness after finally installing our high output hydraulic brake assist systems. It is our experience that enthusiasts CAN have their cake and eat it too, in that they can run a 'hard' long lasting / less brake dusting pad and still accomplish what they need to do in even the most aggressive circumstances they put their vehicles up against. :thumbsup:

Paul, thanks for reaching out, it’s nice to know that people are asking about us. We have done a fair amount of work with hydraboost style applications over the years. In fact, a highly boosted system works very well with our calipers because of their inherit rigidity. The issue using a less rigid caliper with the higher line pressure provided by the hydraboost is that the caliper will flex more (in some cases permanent deformation) leading to excessive drag, accelerate piston bore wear and tapered pad wear. Let us know if you want more information or call Jason at 805-987-7867.

You can see some examples of that deformation and abnormal pad wear in these pics. These are NOT TBM Brakes!!

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps2f7fee80.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...ps6b3d8913.jpg

TBM Brakes 01-21-2015 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cwylie (Post 590772)
What kind front brake packages do you make for first gen Camaros with stock type spindles? Street car with occasional track use.

That's no problem at all. Can you give us a call with your specifics? Then we can make some recommendations. Thanks!

TBM Brakes 02-11-2015 01:49 PM

Any other questions? Brakes can be complex. How can we help?

TBM Brakes 03-25-2015 01:20 PM

We'd be happy to answer questions about calipers, pads, fluids, set up, etc. Whatever you need.

72Z/28 03-25-2015 01:53 PM

Ok here is my problem I hope I can get a solution for it. I have a Ford 9" rear end with end flanges holes having dimensions matching the Big Ford New Style end flanges. The car previous had wilwood rear brake kit, dynalite 4 piston calipers. The calipers on both passenger and driver sides were biased towards the center of the car. The passenger side was much worse to the extend that the outboard pistons could not move to push the outboard pad.

Shims could not help obviously. So based on some members recommendations from another forum, I was advised to go with Wilwood floating rear brake kit(Wil-140-12209) D154 calipers. With offset of 2.50"

I installed the kit but I have no clue how the calipers are supposed to fit with respect to the rotor. I know the fixed calipers are supposed to be centered on the rotor.

However, with the floating caliper, the calipers are also biased towards the center of the car. There is almost 1/2 inch gap between the inboard pad and the rotor, which makes the brake pad too loose on the caliper. The passenger side outboard pad is binding on the rotor making it a tight fit and have difficulty in rotating the rotor.

So I need to rsolve this brake issue and would appreciate if you could share a photo of how the flaoting caliper is supposed to fit in terms of rotor between the inboard and outboard pads

TBM Brakes 03-25-2015 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 72Z/28 (Post 600050)
Ok here is my problem I hope I can get a solution for it. I have a Ford 9" rear end with end flanges holes having dimensions matching the Big Ford New Style end flanges. The car previous had wilwood rear brake kit, dynalite 4 piston calipers. The calipers on both passenger and driver sides were biased towards the center of the car. The passenger side was much worse to the extend that the outboard pistons could not move to push the outboard pad.

Shims could not help obviously. So based on some members recommendations from another forum, I was advised to go with Wilwood floating rear brake kit(Wil-140-12209) D154 calipers. With offset of 2.50"

I installed the kit but I have no clue how the calipers are supposed to fit with respect to the rotor. I know the fixed calipers are supposed to be centered on the rotor.

However, with the floating caliper, the calipers are also biased towards the center of the car. There is almost 1/2 inch gap between the inboard pad and the rotor, which makes the brake pad too loose on the caliper. The passenger side outboard pad is binding on the rotor making it a tight fit and have difficulty in rotating the rotor.

So I need to rsolve this brake issue and would appreciate if you could share a photo of how the flaoting caliper is supposed to fit in terms of rotor between the inboard and outboard pads

You've got a lot going on and we have questions. Can you call (805) 987-STOP and ask for Jason?

Jr 04-08-2015 09:00 AM

If I run your 4 piston setup in the front of my Camaro, should I run your 2 piston setup in the rear? I remember you made a post about this topic, but I can't find it.

TBM Brakes 04-08-2015 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jr (Post 601559)
If I run your 4 piston setup in the front of my Camaro, should I run your 2 piston setup in the rear? I remember you made a post about this topic, but I can't find it.

No, you should run a 4 piston caliper in the rear as well. The reason to use the 4 piston is not so much clamping force, but pad size. The bigger pad of the 4 piston caliper lasts longer and is more heat resistant for a given compound. We then use piston size in the rear caliper to balance the system. Post up what you have for front calipers/pistons (i.e. F4’s with 1.75 pistons), vehicle weight and use. Provide that, and we can get you a recommendation.

We would also recommend going to a dual master cylinder setup for fine tuning the bias with the balance bar.

TBM Brakes 12-29-2015 11:38 AM

As you're looking at ways to improve your car during the off season, think about your brakes. And let us know if you have any questions.

2L8IWON 12-30-2015 10:49 PM

I have a 2016 a Mustang GT with the a performance Package (6 piston Brembos) and was curious if you make, or know of, a pad that doesn't create any dust... Or as much as I have now.

Also, do you make rotors for a 2001 Cobra?

Thanks

Jesse


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