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96z28ss 06-21-2006 11:49 AM

Baldwin Motion lowers pricing on Phase III cars
 
They were originally said to sell for over $400k looks like they changed there business model and dropped the price more in line with the Foose camaros.

http://www.officialbaldwinmotion.com/ad.htm

Sales@Dutchboys 06-21-2006 11:58 AM

Those things are pretty cool...

-Paul

Kris Horton 06-21-2006 12:10 PM

The Phase III cars were always planned to be competitively priced with the Foose Camaro. It was actually the Super Coupe project that was priced at $400K+ but I think that right now the focus is more on the Phase III cars. They're not as extreme, but still deliver the performance that Motion is known for. :thumbsup:

Stuart Adams 06-21-2006 03:29 PM

You would think for approx. 200K you would get an injected motor.

Kris Horton 06-21-2006 03:32 PM

That is strange, though on the option list they have EFI mentioned. I guess it comes standard with a carb...dunno. I thought they were going to run a similar setup to the SEMA car.

Mean 69 06-21-2006 03:33 PM

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You would think for approx. 200K you would get an injected motor.
But the Phase III DOES come with a "Special Intake......" Must be pretty special!
M

BC69 06-21-2006 07:33 PM

You would also think for 200k you could build a meaner one of a kind car. But I won't lie...owning one of those would be pretty cool!!

Tim

trapin 06-22-2006 12:07 PM

If I was rich...I would probably buy one, why not? It's a cool car. But if all I had was the $200,000 to spend, then I would probably have Detroit Speed or Progidy Customs build me something instead. That way I could get exactly what I wanted and wouldn't be paying the extra $50,000 for the Foose or Baldwin Motion names.

Stuart Adams 06-22-2006 01:27 PM

What he said.

Kris Horton 06-22-2006 01:55 PM

+1.


Foose is name that appeals to "trendy" collectors (same goes for Boyd and Troy and I don't mean trendy in a negative way.)

Motion is there for collectors who either have collected the original Motion cars and want to continue to collect that brand.

It's nice that there's something for everybody I guess, but if I had the money, I'd do things my own way too. The other cars are nice because you don't have to micromanage every bit of the car and you know what you're getting, but at the same time, some people NEED to micromanage the build of their car. So it all balances out in the end.

Hdesign 06-22-2006 02:44 PM

At that price, I'd probably buy a Lambo or Ferrari instead. That's just insane money IMO. I don't care who built it or who's name is on it. It's a high performance 69 Camaro for chrissakes not a one of a kind, hand cut diamond necklace. Besides, what the hell do you do with it? I'd be affraid to drive it and scratch something or get a speck of dust on it. I suppose if you have money to burn, that's no issue. Cars should be built for thrashing. I guess I can't stand when prices of all cars and parts get driven so high that regular Joe's can't enjoy the hobby. :soapbox:

trapin 06-23-2006 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hdesign
Besides, what the hell do you do with it? I'd be affraid to drive it and scratch something or get a speck of dust on it.

Funny story here (kinda unrelated). I work with this guy Joe who up until last year had this awesome '70 Monte Carlo with a 502 in it. When he went to have it painted, he dropped some insane money on the paint job. $15,000.
I mean...that car looked fantastic...the surface was flawless, like a mirror. He definitely got what he paid for. But after it got painted, he never brought it around. No Woodward, Autorama, weekday car shows, the employee car show we have here at the Tech Center every year. He never took it anywhere. Eventually he sold the thing and would later admit that he was so paranoid about his $15,000 paint job that he couldn't stand to own the car anymore. Unbelievable. We still give him crap about it to this day. :lol:

Sorry...had to share that. :)

XcYZ 06-23-2006 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by trapin
If I was rich...I would probably buy one, why not? It's a cool car. But if all I had was the $200,000 to spend, then I would probably have Detroit Speed or Progidy Customs build me something instead. That way I could get exactly what I wanted and wouldn't be paying the extra $50,000 for the Foose or Baldwin Motion names.

Tony, you're not thinking BIG enough. :D If I was Bill Gates rich, I'd have ALL of that... a B-M car, a DSE built car, a Prodigy built car, a Marquez built car, a Rad Rides buit car (can't say Troy built, I don't need an industrial brush cutter :lol: ), a Foose built car...

trapin 06-23-2006 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by XcYZ
Tony, you're not thinking BIG enough. :D If I was Bill Gates rich, I'd have ALL of that... a B-M car, a DSE built car, a Prodigy built car, a Marquez built car, a Rad Rides buit car (can't say Troy built, I don't need an industrial brush cutter :lol: ), a Foose built car...

:thumbsup: Yeah you're probably right. I know one thing...I'd probably be spending a lot of time at some of these car auctions too. Not to invest but to buy and drive the hell out of them. Like that SMC Torino on Wrecks To Riches last night. I would have given Barry what he wanted for it, but then I would have taken it to a custom interior place for a new interior and put the shifter on the floor. You know...stuff like that. :D

syborg tt 06-23-2006 01:36 PM

I saw the Baldwin Motion car at the Barret Jackson Auction and i was less then impressed with the quality of the car. Heck my mom walked up to it and said what are all those scratches in the paint. I looked and said well that's actually in the body work not the paint. I just hope there quality is a lot better then the car they took to auction.

Stuart Adams 06-23-2006 01:58 PM

To me BM means straight ahead high performance cars, like back in the day.

The problem BM will have is times have changed, its going to be hard to compete (and make money) with all the others in todays world that have been doing striaght ahead and around corners performance, IMO. Cool cars though.

Kris Horton 06-23-2006 02:06 PM

Marty,

I agree, the metalwork on the car was really nice though. The fit and finish left a lot to be desired in my opinion. I think it was partly due to who was doing most of the work. Last I heard, they have gone with a new builder for their next major project.


I think that they have tried to adapt well considering their suspension upgrades. While not as hardcore as DSE-built cars, the B-M cars were built to do more than just go fast in a straight line this time around. I thought it was a good attempt at balance.

onegmachine 06-25-2006 09:59 PM

Overpriced?
 
I would think for $200K you would get much more car than what is being shown. It apprears as if it is a bunch of bolt-on parts that could be built for around $100-$125K. I guess the rest is just profit for them. I agree you should get at least an injected motor for the money they are asking. It will be interesting to see the car and the reaction it gets with collectors. I am not sure a true collector will believe all this hype. They did not get all of their riches without being intelligent.


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