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DBasher 06-28-2015 08:54 AM

I had to...
 
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I shouldn't have been looking but I was, paid scrap prices for it. It'll be stored until the wife's mustang is on the road and the other rig is sold.

1964 Falcon, 8 point 1-3/4" DOM cage, frame rails from the spring hangers up to the core support and tied into the rockers. It's a great start to a track car.

DBasher 06-28-2015 09:03 AM

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All of the fab work is done really well, car was set up with a 3 link and a wicked front set up. I'm not exactly sure what to do with the front suspension yet.....got plenty of time to think about it though!

Yukon Cornelius 06-28-2015 10:31 AM

Must have a horshoe in you rear..............pocket. Looks like a decent start.

GregWeld 06-28-2015 01:49 PM

Nice buy!! Before long you'll own more F'n cars that Lillard and I....

waynieZ 06-28-2015 04:11 PM

You must be able to fall in crap and come out smelling like a rose!
Nice score!

DBasher 06-28-2015 04:59 PM

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It's this sites fault...:D My wife is actually trying to figure out the "parental controls" for all my electronics, it's a disease.

The wife's mustang will be a great driver and local auto-x car but...I want more. The discussions with the group of guys I do these events with, the PRO3/E46 class races and the chitter chatter on this site has me convinced that I need a real track car. I've been looking at Falcons and 64/65 Comets, this one popped up Friday night and I was at his door Saturday morning after work.

What's with mechanical engineers and Falcons? :headscratch: He was moving across the country, the cost of the move was adding up so he pulled his goodies and I ended up with what you see. Very knowledgable and talented, the front suspension was an unexpected site to see, especially coming out of a garage build. It's purdy!

Vince@Meanstreets 06-28-2015 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 609831)
It's this sites fault...:D My wife is actually trying to figure out the "parental controls" for all my electronics, it's a disease.

The wife's mustang will be a great driver and local auto-x car but...I want more. The discussions with the group of guys I do these events with, the PRO3/E46 class races and the chitter chatter on this site has me convinced that I need a real track car. I've been looking at Falcons and 64/65 Comets, this one popped up Friday night and I was at his door Saturday morning after work.

What's with mechanical engineers and Falcons? :headscratch: He was moving across the country, the cost of the move was adding up so he pulled his goodies and I ended up with what you see. Very knowledgable and talented, the front suspension was an unexpected site to see, especially coming out of a garage build. It's purdy!

Check out the set up that BMR and Sutton put on welds Mustang. Simple and proven system.

sanddan 06-28-2015 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 609839)
Check out the set up that BMR and Sutton put on welds Mustang. Simple and proven system.

Is there a build thread on welds mustang?

DBasher 06-28-2015 07:23 PM

If you call 126 pages of nonsense and tomfoolery a build thread, you can find it right below this one in the race cars and modern pro-street section.

Vince, I've got bare fabricated frame rails, all the stock stuff is gone. I am on page 22 of Ron's front suspension thread, so you know, I've got that goin for me.

rustomatic 06-28-2015 08:18 PM

What the freak, Dan? Nice score! Maybe mine will be functional again by the time you get that thing rolling...

Most of my suspension went to two guys with '62 and '64 Comets...

Did the seller provide that front suspension with the car? It looks interesting and light--mine will have aluminum control arms at some point...

DBasher 06-28-2015 08:55 PM

No suspension just some straight rails, honestly I'm not smart enough to play with rocker style suspensions...:headscratch: I did talk with him about CAD files and his willingness to share, mainly on the rear set up though.

I'm easily a year out, won't even touch it until this fall and I really have no clue what to do with the front end. I'm not worried about it, I just have no clue.

What'd ya say we meet at Thunderhill next fall, GW makes some killer track lunches!...oh and the paint and body work, not touchin it!

:thumbsup:

Vince@Meanstreets 06-29-2015 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 609848)
If you call 126 pages of nonsense and tomfoolery a build thread, you can find it right below this one in the race cars and modern pro-street section.

Vince, I've got bare fabricated frame rails, all the stock stuff is gone. I am on page 22 of Ron's front suspension thread, so you know, I've got that goin for me.

I meant the fronts. the rear is easy cause you are half way there. just add a watts and coil overs.

rustomatic 06-29-2015 07:03 PM

Cool--Weld makes a mean weanie!

If I go back to suck, I mean law school in the fall, mine might take another five years to get moving. At any rate, I should have a new and really wrong chassis under it in the next couple of weeks...

I'm with you on the paint, although I did start of bit of dent removal before I ripped the last set of guts out of mine...

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 609868)
No suspension just some straight rails, honestly I'm not smart enough to play with rocker style suspensions...:headscratch: I did talk with him about CAD files and his willingness to share, mainly on the rear set up though.

I'm easily a year out, won't even touch it until this fall and I really have no clue what to do with the front end. I'm not worried about it, I just have no clue.

What'd ya say we meet at Thunderhill next fall, GW makes some killer track lunches!...oh and the paint and body work, not touchin it!

:thumbsup:


DBasher 06-29-2015 08:28 PM

You're right, Weld can be a mean weenie...especially if you're friends with him!

You may be more on target with the 5 year thing. I'd like to be on track next fall but I know the$e thing$ take time. I've got a half ass plan and a goal, what else is there?
I'm expecting an update on this chassis thing you speak of, any sort of ideas help at his point.

:thumbsup:

GregWeld 06-29-2015 09:02 PM

You two suck....



Be at Sonoma in August for the Mini Nats....


Although - Basher - I can give you a guest pass at Oregon Raceway Park now that I'm a member... You can come down and drive the Miata. LOL

DBasher 06-29-2015 09:25 PM

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Sonoma? August? That's kinda on the way to Bonneville right?

Slide that seat back and pull the top! Let's do this!

BMR Sales 06-30-2015 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 609831)
It's this sites fault...:D My wife is actually trying to figure out the "parental controls" for all my electronics, it's a disease.

The wife's mustang will be a great driver and local auto-x car but...I want more. The discussions with the group of guys I do these events with, the PRO3/E46 class races and the chitter chatter on this site has me convinced that I need a real track car. I've been looking at Falcons and 64/65 Comets, this one popped up Friday night and I was at his door Saturday morning after work.

What's with mechanical engineers and Falcons? :headscratch: He was moving across the country, the cost of the move was adding up so he pulled his goodies and I ended up with what you see. Very knowledgable and talented, the front suspension was an unexpected site to see, especially coming out of a garage build. It's purdy!

Inboard Shocks?

DBasher 06-30-2015 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BMR Sales (Post 610055)
Inboard Shocks?

Yuuup. In the picture I posted the adjustable rod isn't for mock up, it connects to a rocker which connects to the coil over. Honestly it was like walking into the Roadster Shop's 300sqft satellite shop.

Flash68 06-30-2015 12:37 PM

Nice score!

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 609824)
Nice buy!! Before long you'll own more F'n cars that Lillard and I....

Or more appropriately, more non running cars than that DICKey guy.

Sieg 06-30-2015 10:16 PM

Next thing you know he's going to have a Gremlin and Matador in his driveway. :shakehead:

DBasher 07-03-2015 08:41 PM

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Welp, I've officially stepped in it...

Picked up this morning.
New 9" housing with the correct 3 link brackets installed, Currie 9+ axles and a nodular 3rd member with 3.50 gears and a Truetrac.
Rebuilt wide ratio Toploader, SKF bearings, billet input shaft and a SFI bell housing....I'm pretty stoked! He also gave me a nice roller 302 block that was used as mock up and a bunch of fluids. The moving company was giving him a hard time about some of the parts so, I win!

The 4spd even came with a nice cover he machined.
:thumbsup:

GregWeld 07-04-2015 07:02 AM

Wow --- I wish I could afford all the projects you have going.....

DBasher 07-04-2015 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 610389)
Wow --- I wish I could afford all the projects you have going.....

So do I!

I couldn't pass it up, I pretty much paid for a built 9" and got the rest for free. Now all I need to do is replace the "15 year anniversary trip" money before the wife finds out...we might not be able to go to Red Lobster this year.:(

waynieZ 07-04-2015 10:22 AM

Nice!! I love new toys!!!

rustomatic 07-05-2015 09:35 AM

If the 15th anniversary rolls in around August, Sonoma is nice...

DBasher 08-16-2015 06:24 PM

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My pops sent me a text yesterday, no words just this picture. I called him immediately and asked what the what? Turns out he was lost up near his house and stumbled across this lil sweetheart. The wife was super eager to get it out of the front yard so he gave her $350 and hauled it home!
I'll pull a few things off of it and he'll end of parting/scrapping the rest...Its just funny to me because my family gives me a hard time for draggin stuff home. I always do well when I sell or part something out, doesn't matter, I still get grief.

Wonder where I got it from.....

rustomatic 08-18-2015 03:19 PM

Hey Dan,

I thought I'd throw you a couple teaser shots of my latest mess (further progress will be very, very slow):

DBasher 08-18-2015 04:53 PM

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R.I.P. Lil Falcon....hahaha! You know those old vettes didn't handle that great to begin with right?

I'm leaning toward a torque arm in the back and some kind of something in the front....ford had some great designs throughout the years.
:happy23:

craig510 08-18-2015 07:15 PM

Awesome score picking up that parts car. This is going to be one cool falcon.

DBasher 08-19-2015 07:00 AM

Thanks Craig, I'm looking forward to getting it in the garage and hacking away. I have some ideas and goals for the car, should be fun!

Paul......you're crazy! With that being said I'd love to see more of how you're putting that lil Falvette together. 2 things...Did you look at the Ford IRS and what are you drinking these days?

:thumbsup:

rustomatic 08-19-2015 01:18 PM

My sickness was in gestation for some time. After driving the (1992) Corvette for a season or so, in a number of environments, I decided I really liked the chassis, brakes, steering, etc. All the other crap had to go. I added 13 inches to the length, with a new 2x3 frame in the middle, along with a 2011 5.3 LS and its 6-speed auto (cuz shifting has gotten old, along with me) . . .

Oh, and the engine's about a foot back from normal now. Seating will be interesting. I may become my own back-seat driver.

Said ill-handling chassis ruled autocross for like a couple of decades--they also make pretty good track cars, especially with a bit of extra wheelbase (see C5 improvements not related to rear trans mount). On the dorkiest level, they also ride pretty nicely . . .

No more freaking rod ends!

We can also blame Belgian beer or Black Velvet, but really, law school drove me to this cluster . . .:headspin:

Flash68 08-19-2015 03:10 PM

I had a C4.... for 6 months.... what a POS that was. :lol:

DBasher 08-19-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Flash68 (Post 614180)
I had a CAMARO.... for 6 months.... what a POS that was. :lol:

Fixed it for ya, HEY-O!

I'm sure the lil Falvette will turn out great. If not at least you'll have learned what works or doesn't and know how to fix it.....:thumbsup: looks to me like you're just honing your skills for when the law school thing doesn't work out.

DBasher 08-20-2015 11:44 AM

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Just because, good times.

rustomatic 08-21-2015 11:28 AM

Sweet pics, Dan--the black & white is kind of romantic!:military: I may have to steal them for other purposes.

What's funny is that it looks like the car's almost not corner-diving in those pictures. So much of my handling-based fury came from those stupid, weak 2-inch leaf springs . . .

One of the things that really hit me with the C4 was its balance in corners. The chassis seemed to load evenly (without any driver effort) when being whipped through turns, which I made sure to do well ahead of my choice to rip things apart. Necessarily, GM engineers had a lot more to work with than I (in brains and parts), so I figured that using what they came up with would be a bit better than anything I'd produce on my own (or worse yet, bolt on) in 20 years.

I'll look forward to seeing yours develop in a more normal way, maybe . . .

DBasher 08-21-2015 01:54 PM

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Since you didn't ask....here is the rest of the sequence from that part of the course, I have more on my home computer. I know I've looked at and compared the photos between your car and Craig's....it actually paid off being too lazy to find another spot to shoot from.

Bummer you couldn't stick around for the color day, Sieg REALLY tuned me up for Sunday.
:cheers: :happy23:

craig510 08-21-2015 05:04 PM

Danger thread hijack in progress!

I don't remember seeing those picks of my car on the autox. I think you posted a sequence of the speed stop when my old UCAs were bending. I was not really going for it on the autox because I still wanted to finish the event and my alignment was all screwed up, but it would be interesting to see the difference 40# of rear spring rate would make. You can see how Paul's car is dumped over on the rear tire unloading the inside front and over working the outside. On the medium/low grip skid pad, my bet is the car was understeering. If you take that same setup out to a high grip concrete it will initially understeer, then start to oversteer as the inside rear unloads, makes the car a real handfull.

I am currently finishing up the design work for a Falcon MOD2 rocker arm suspension and already bought my JRi's so I will be able to dial it in for next season.

DBasher 08-21-2015 06:21 PM

Well first of all, how's the painting comin along?

I'm up, er maybe downloading pics now...I'll start of with these.

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DBasher 08-22-2015 10:26 PM

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DBasher 08-22-2015 10:30 PM

Few more, just because.

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:thumbsup:


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