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paulk68 12-21-2015 11:44 AM

Baer Brake bracket on ridetech spindle
 
Anyone have a picture of a baer brake bracket mounted to a ridetech spindle with true turn what to make sure i use the correct hardware. ridetech included 2 bolts but I am not sure what to use for the second mounting holes?

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

paulk68 12-28-2015 09:25 AM

so the baer kit came with a 3' and 2.75" bolt for the braket. as you can see the 2.75" bolt is going to hit the posi link when I turn. is it safe to run a 2" bolt on this braket? i will keep the 3" at the tie rod end


https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D550/ry%3D400/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

paulk68 12-30-2015 01:47 PM

so I am running the 2" bolts with nylock nuts torqued to 85 ft lb's per baer instructions. My question is are these long enought, this is how it looks torqued down should I look to run a little bit longer bolts? this is what holds the caliper bracket to the spindle. thanks

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

Apogee 01-13-2016 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulk68 (Post 626029)
My question is are these long enought, this is how it looks torqued down should I look to run a little bit longer bolts?

Ideally, you should have at least 2-3 threads sticking through the locknut, so I would think that a 1/4" longer fastener in that application would be in order.

Tobin
KORE3

SlowProgress 01-13-2016 03:55 PM

I can get a photo tonight.

SlowProgress 01-13-2016 11:27 PM

I just realized I put non-locking nuts on for all the fit-up work. Once I put a tall self-locking nut on there it will probably look the same. I think I will just buy a shorter all-metal locknut when I do the final install. I agree that good practice is to have 1.5 - 2 threads past the locking feature.

Scott

http://i.imgur.com/9UcEIsPl.jpg

paulk68 01-14-2016 02:53 AM

Thanks Guys, I will go up on my bolt size and check to make sure it does not interfere with the posi link.

98ssnova 01-14-2016 07:01 AM

2 thread is the magic number to ensure the locking feature of the nut is working or engaged. Those bolts look to short especially for a nylon lock.

paulk68 01-15-2016 02:55 PM

So the shorter bolt was 2 inches this is a 2 1/4. much better getting through the nut but very close on full lock. a 2 1/8 would be perfect i think. anyone know someone that make custom bolts?

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

SlowProgress 01-15-2016 11:10 PM

You won't need a customer bolt here. There are several styles of all-metal locknuts that are shorter than the nylon insert style that came with the kit. If you cut the bolt down it will rust where you are missing the plating. I would just go to the local hardware store and find a shorter locknut.

paulk68 01-16-2016 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowProgress (Post 627571)
You won't need a customer bolt here. There are several styles of all-metal locknuts that are shorter than the nylon insert style that came with the kit. If you cut the bolt down it will rust where you are missing the plating. I would just go to the local hardware store and find a shorter locknut.

So stick with the 2" bolt and find a shorter locknut. Yeah that makes perfect sense I am such an idiot hahaha I was so focused on the bolt size. Thank you!

MillerBuilt 01-16-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulk68 (Post 627540)
So the shorter bolt was 2 inches this is a 2 1/4. much better getting through the nut but very close on full lock. a 2 1/8 would be perfect i think. anyone know someone that make custom bolts?

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

Any reason an extra thick washer on the "head" side wont tune you in at this point?

71RS/SS396 01-17-2016 08:14 AM

You can use a "top lock" nut as SlowProgress suggested or no lock nut with red loctite with the shorter bolt. You can get them in flanged or not flanged in various materials and coatings https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/37278

paulk68 01-17-2016 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71RS/SS396 (Post 627711)
You can use a "top lock" nut as SlowProgress suggested or no lock nut with red loctite with the shorter bolt. You can get them in flanged or not flanged in various materials and coatings https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/37278

Thanks everyone I got some top lock nuts I will install later today with the short bolts and see how those look. Thanks everyone for the suggestions

paulk68 01-17-2016 10:33 AM

finally happy!! 2" bolt and top lock nut.

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

SlowProgress 01-18-2016 12:02 AM

That looks perfect!

paulk68 01-18-2016 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowProgress (Post 627770)
That looks perfect!

Thanks, on to the next issue the Baer brakes caliper did not line up at all on either side needed to add 2 .05 spacers to the top and bottom just to get the caliper on the braket and not hit the rotor. Anyone else running into this issue? What size spacers have you guys used to center the caliper?

SlowProgress 01-18-2016 08:17 PM

I could only get to the fronts easily. The LF is around .155 and the RF is around .164. So I wouldn't worry if you are somewhere in that range.

paulk68 01-19-2016 05:03 AM

So this is how it looks with the spacers in place, I will clearly need more to even out the sides. but adding more will pull the mounting bolt out even more

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

https://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a...D720/ry%3D480/

SlowProgress 01-19-2016 05:29 AM

There is almost no runout on the brake rotor so miss is as good as a mile but let me measure and snap a photo of mine tonight.

paulk68 01-19-2016 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowProgress (Post 627863)
There is almost no runout on the brake rotor so miss is as good as a mile but let me measure and snap a photo of mine tonight.

Thanks for all the help!!

SlowProgress 01-19-2016 10:06 PM

Here is a photo of mine with some feeler gauges. I just snugged up a couple lugnuts.

http://i.imgur.com/PczWv4el.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/8inMJmcl.jpg

Ended up being around .102

paulk68 01-20-2016 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowProgress (Post 627957)
Here is a photo of mine with some feeler gauges. I just snugged up a couple lugnuts.

http://i.imgur.com/PczWv4el.jpghttp://i.imgur.com/8inMJmcl.jpg

Ended up being around .102

thanks, looks like you had to add a few spacers as well to get the bracket where it needed to be. are you about the same distance on the font side of the caliper? Baer is sending me some bigger spacers and also some longer bracket mounting bolts to make sure i have a good connection. It is so nice having someone else using that same parts!!!

SlowProgress 01-20-2016 08:02 PM

I live in the Phoenix area and I did go by Baer one day and picked up a couple of spare shims packs because I could not mix and match to get the centering where I wanted it. I think I ended up centered within a few thousandths, both top and bottom. The first one was slow but it got quicker with practice.

Scott


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