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John510 03-17-2016 06:53 PM

Clutch Recommendations
 
Hey Guys,
Im looking for some clutch reviews. I installed a RAM Force and it is a PITA to drive. Have to rev it super high to avoid stalling. I am looking to replace it with a more "factory feel" clutch. Something smooth and easy but also wont get burnt up with 527rwhp.

What do you recommend?

John

carbuff 03-17-2016 07:24 PM

I love my LTI-S dual disc from Monster. They make a flywheel and use the new 2014+ LT1 dual disc clutch from GM. It has a very smooth feel, perfect pedal to me, and if I need to replace it, I can get it from a GM dealer. It's not a cheap setup, but I'm really happy with it. It's also rated to 700 ft-lb if I recall correctly...

You can buy direct or they also have a dealer network where you can save a few bucks as well...

http://monsterclutches.com/c6-corvet...reet-c6-clutch

John510 03-17-2016 07:46 PM

I just went through my paperwork. I actually have a RAM Force not a MCleod

Flash68 03-18-2016 12:05 AM

How much power is the LS7 clutch good for?

SSLance 03-18-2016 06:29 AM

I just finished breaking in my new Mcleod Street Extreme clutch and so far, I like it a lot. It is rated at 700 hp but has a very factory pedal feel and engages very smoothly, just the slightest hint of chatter if I under rev by a bit when starting off. It's very driveable.

Not sure if they have a Street Extreme for your application but worth checking out in my book. I'd call Mark Bowler at Bowler Transmission and speak with him, he's very knowledgable and helpful with clutch choices to meet your particular needs.

Phone: 618.943.4856
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Rod P 03-18-2016 07:35 AM

I used a lot of clutches when i worked at the speed shop, Ram, Mcloed, Hays, CenterForces, I was able to get them at cost and I just switched till i found one i liked , it was centerforce for me, the pedal pressure was close on most of them but the grip force that happens on the release of the clutch pedal was the best to me with the centerforce

:king:

1965_SS 03-18-2016 11:15 AM

I just ordered a McLeod RST for my build. I bought it based on what other people said. JEGS has McLeod clutches on sale now until Monday.

ADY 03-18-2016 12:09 PM

I had the McLeod RST and it wasn't easy to smoothly engage at lower rpm. Switch to McLeod Street Extreme and love it, much less pedal effort and smooth engagement.

Che70velle 03-18-2016 08:22 PM

TDP (Texas Drivetrain Performance) stage 3 here. I have 130 miles on it, so it's still breaking in, but so far it's great. It does chatter slightly at engagement if I under rev it, but it does grab well.

gnx7 03-18-2016 10:17 PM

I have been installing RST and RXT clutches for the past few years. Everyone gives them a thumbs up.
I used to have a Ram910 single disc and it was brutal. Did hold constant thrashing for 20K miles.

Truly the RST could be lighter than stock pedal pressure. It also has a very non grabby engagement. The RXT isn't much stiffer and/or worse to drive.
If you plan to launch the car hard on slicks at the drag strip get the RXT. It takes abuse much better.

If you want it to rev fast get an aluminum flywheel. If you don't like the fact that you need to give it a little gas to get going then go steel. The aluminum flywheel is really just a matter of getting used to IMO.

John510 03-18-2016 10:29 PM

Maybe it's a combo of aluminum flywheel and 231/236 cam. Little too "race car" for me. I want it smooth like a new vette

JodysTransmissions 03-20-2016 12:34 PM

McLeod 75xxx series single disc clutches are 2400lb static pressure plate. McLeod 69xx-xx series twin disc clutches have a 1900lb static pressure plate.

The RST is organic disc for street tires and the RXT has pucks on both discs intended for sticky or drag radial tires.

Centerforce 03-21-2016 06:06 PM

You may like our DYAD system, John. Its capable of holding much more power than you are currently putting down, and the pedal pressure is as soft, or even softer than stock in some applications. It a great option for performance cars that are still driven on the street!

clill 03-22-2016 06:46 AM

Centerforce DYAD in Hellfire is very easy pedal pressure and seems to handle high hp just fine.

Centerforce 03-22-2016 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 633102)
Centerforce DYAD in Hellfire is very easy pedal pressure and seems to handle high hp just fine.

Its been tested to hold about 1300 ft/lbs to the crank, so the DYAD can work for pretty much everyone!

Ron in SoCal 03-28-2016 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John510 (Post 632828)
Maybe it's a combo of aluminum flywheel and 231/236 cam. Little too "race car" for me. I want it smooth like a new vette

I'm wondering if you don't have something else going on John? That cam is not huge, and it only takes a little extra rev to get it going when street driving. If you're stalling it could be your tune, or characteristic of your intake / dual TB / cam / airflow reversion application. I'd check with Zen Master Vince before dropping a couple Gs and finding out you took out a brand new clutch for nuttin'.

McLeod RST w Alum flywheel here. Works great.

JodysTransmissions 03-28-2016 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John510 (Post 632725)
Hey Guys,
Im looking for some clutch reviews. I installed a RAM Force and it is a PITA to drive. Have to rev it super high to avoid stalling. I am looking to replace it with a more "factory feel" clutch. Something smooth and easy but also wont get burnt up with 527rwhp.

What do you recommend?

John

We have been building aluminum flywheel drivelines for over 20 years. Running an aluminum flywheel needs proper gearing so you don't need to constantly over rev to take off.

What is your 1st gear transmission ratio, differential gearing, and rear tire size?

John510 04-04-2016 10:26 PM

Not sure on 1st gear. It is a T56 from a 2000 Camaro and I am running 3.75 rear gear ratio with true trac. Rear tire is a 19" wheel with 35 series tire

I'm taking the car to a professional sometime this week. I would guess that whoever installed it probably didn't do it right based on all the other BS wrong with my car.

And Ron,
Vince doesn't have room for it right now. I was going to take it over to Steve at EBMC to fix

gerno 04-05-2016 07:45 AM

You may also check your pedal ratio and for binding in the linkage. I hated my clutch then moved the linkage 1/4" down and it made all the difference in the world. Now I love my clutch. The movement did help a lot with the overall ratio for pressure and travel and also free'd the master from some binding I didn't even know was occurring. Fixing the binding was the biggest gain I assume.

Zspoiler 04-05-2016 09:18 AM

I have run different clutches over time .And the one I have had the most luck with is a Center Force clutch with a steel flywheel.And I run this in my 1979 Z-28 RS Camaro Pro-touring car with a 500 HP plushttp://s1064.photobucket.com Supercharged Small block Chevy.

Centerforce 04-05-2016 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zspoiler (Post 634412)
I have run different clutches over time .And the one I have had the most luck with is a Center Force clutch with a steel flywheel.And I run this in my 1979 Z-28 RS Camaro Pro-touring car with a 500 HP plushttp://s1064.photobucket.com Supercharged Small block Chevy.

Is it our Dual-Friction clutch that you are using, or a different model?

SlowProgress 04-28-2016 09:46 PM

Dyad with the GM quick disconnect
 
Hello guys I started a thread a while back about clutch master connection to the Dyad clutch. I probably should have posted it in a different location. I noticed the centerforce guys are on here so maybe you could take a peak at the link and post up some information on the best way to reuse the GM quick disconnects (GM or DSE style clutch master) with the Ford style release cylinder recommended with the Dyad. It would be greatly appreciated.
The original dead end thread is below. Mods you can move this if I totally missed the mark.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/show...534#post636534


Thanks,

Scott

Zspoiler 04-28-2016 10:06 PM

Its a Centerforce dual friction clutch.And I Heim -jointed my factory clutch likage so its extra smooth.http://s1064.photobucket.com

clill 04-29-2016 09:07 AM

2 Attachment(s)
DYAD setup in Hellfire

SlowProgress 04-30-2016 12:57 PM

Thanks a bunch Charlie. That's a great view of the coupler. I think that is probably how I will try to do it.

Scott


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