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cpd004 04-18-2016 10:02 AM

Ridetech control arms, should this move?
 
On the upper control arms, all 4 of these move very easily and freely around. Should they and what is their purpose?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...B4324FEFEF.jpg

I'm referring to the inner small washer seen in the above pic.

Josh@Ridetech 04-20-2016 07:30 AM

Have you tightened down the cross shaft nuts all of the way? I can't really tell in the picture you posted but the washers will be loose until those nuts are tight.

cpd004 04-20-2016 07:45 AM

I'll have to double check that. I thought I tightened them up tight, but not too tight so that there would be bind. I just may have them a little too loose.

cpd004 04-20-2016 08:37 AM

Here's another pic I uploaded a while back. I'm suspecting the arms are too loose.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...A0EC64F6B9.jpg

Vince@Meanstreets 04-20-2016 01:18 PM

No torque spec given but:

5. Tighten cross shaft nuts enough to create a drag on the delrin bushings, the arm should still move.


What I am seeing is tighten the nut @ ride height till the slack is taken up on the washer. 1/4 turn past. Retest.

cpd004 04-20-2016 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@Meanstreets (Post 635846)
No torque spec given but:

5. Tighten cross shaft nuts enough to create a drag on the delrin bushings, the arm should still move.


What I am seeing is tighten the nut @ ride height till the slack is taken up on the washer. 1/4 turn past. Retest.


Thanks Vince. In my #5, the instructions aren't worded like that. All I have is 'Position the suspension at mid travel and tighten the cross shaft nuts.'

I was so worried about bind, I did not tighten these enough. All 4 inner washers move freely and easily quite a bit. This is hopefully the source of the loose clunky feeling I have. I'll have to double check the rear as well.

Vince@Meanstreets 04-20-2016 01:54 PM

Strange!! Be nice to have an actual torque number too. We like a reachable goal.

Also remember that the front support weight is 500 + LBS and don't go by what you can lift or push down on when gauging actual bind. :thumbsup:

That clunky feeling you are experiencing maybe the harshness from the heims in the coil over mounts. There is very little give in them as rubber has.

cpd004 04-20-2016 02:08 PM

They appear to be rubber on mine if I'm not mistaken. Wonder if that would make a difference in how tight it should be.

Vince@Meanstreets 04-20-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpd004 (Post 635853)
They appear to be rubber on mine if I'm not mistaken. Wonder if that would make a difference in how tight it should be.

sorry, I meant on the coil over mounts. Top is usually delrin and the bottom is a metal heim ball.

cpd004 04-20-2016 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@Meanstreets (Post 635856)
sorry, I meant on the coil over mounts. Top is usually delrin and the bottom is a metal heim ball.

Got ya. Thanks so much for the help! This is definitely new territory for me. I'm the guy they should hand the whole kit too while someone watches and writes instructions. A video wouldn't hurt either.

On another note, is it possible to overtighten the lower bolt that goes through the two spacers at the heim ball? I would guess it wouldn't matter as this shouldn't prevent the ball from moving freely.

Vince@Meanstreets 04-20-2016 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpd004 (Post 635858)
Got ya. Thanks so much for the help! This is definitely new territory for me. I'm the guy they should hand the whole kit too while someone watches and writes instructions. A video wouldn't hurt either.

On another note, is it possible to overtighten the lower bolt that goes through the two spacers at the heim ball? I would guess it wouldn't matter as this shouldn't prevent the ball from moving freely.

no problem, any time.

Minimum torque on a 5/8" bolt is 150 ft lbs min and 180 ft lbs max

Since we are going with a nylock nut I usually so 45-65 ft lbs

JKnight 04-20-2016 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpd004 (Post 635858)
I'm the guy they should hand the whole kit too while someone watches and writes instructions.

Can I apply for that job? I'm very qualified ;)

Josh@Ridetech 04-28-2016 07:38 AM

Good working with you! :cheers:

cpd004 04-28-2016 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@Ridetech (Post 636478)
Good working with you! :cheers:


Josh, might want to clarify that part in the instructions for future customers.

Josh@Ridetech 04-28-2016 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpd004 (Post 636505)
Josh, might want to clarify that part in the instructions for future customers.

With these being an old design, they've changed a little bit :D

cpd004 04-28-2016 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@Ridetech (Post 636513)
With these being an old design, they've changed a little bit :D

The arms are an old design?

Josh@Ridetech 04-29-2016 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpd004 (Post 636515)
The arms are an old design?

For some reason, I was thinking your car was a 1st Gen until I looked at your signature. That is still the current design for the 2nd Gen. I'll see if I can do anything with the instructions.


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