71 Formula Brewster Green Project
 

So what do you guys think.

See attached renderings and let the feedback begin.

My pop and this car ins 71 and the first renderings of the planned project.

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And here are some more renderings without a spoiler and with a Trans am spoiler.

I'm liking the modern chin spoiler from the other pics but just not sure. Comments...http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...cd32a9e869.jpg

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Love the first rendering! They all look great, that's just my favorite! The only thing I would change is to keep the original style snorkels, I love those snorkels!

Wow....#1.

Thanks for letting me help Mike. Should be an awesome car no matter what you do.

I like the take on the 69 T/A meets 71/72 GTO hood scoops- that's a really sharp design!
As much of a fan as I am of T/A's(and their aero components), I prefer the first drawing for a fresh take on what a Formula can be.

x2. I like this idea.

71 bird
 

Great to see another firebird
Brewster is a killer color

One more rendering. I think this is it! Thoughts on the color matched splitter?

Anyone have any power train ideas? It will definitely not be naturally aspirated 😉


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The color matched chin splitter subdues the effect somewhat, where the black emphasizes it and makes it more bold. I think keep it black and then add a black stripe around the entrance of the snorkels and perhaps an accent black line around the rear spoiler...

I agree with Greg the 1st rendering is the way to go.

71 formula brewster green
 

Cool looking project! I'm digging the rendering! l personally like look of the black or dark argent on frt. splitter. I'm also liking the the flared frt. fenders and qtr. panels! Guess I'm partial to that because of our second gen!

Looking back and learning from past builds I would definitely do thing differently. Since your car is a 2nd gen and I have a little bit of experience with this. I would do a plug and play LS Engine & Trans and a complete bolt on front suspension.

As for the rear suspension I would seriously consider the leaf spring options that are out there which would lower the car just enough to look nice.


Do the rear outer wheelhouse modification so you could tuck the taller rear tire.

Afco LS 2nd Gen Radiator
Vintage Air
28" tall 275 for the rear
25" tall 255 for the front.

Keep it simple and be done in less the a year and have a ton of money left over to cruise the car to all the places you want to.

One of my favorite cars in one of my favorite colors.

I like #2 personally. I'm not into racing, so the spoiler gives that track effect to me. Nothing wrong with the spoiler though.

I like #2 personally. I'm not into racing, so the spoiler in #1 gives that track effect to me. Nothing wrong with the spoiler though.

Marty brings up some great points. Yeah, I'm biased because it's a similar path to what I'm already taking, but I truly recommend it. I'm still running leafs in the back of my car. It rides well and sits well. It is a little jarring when the back goes over a bump compared to the front, but it's not terrible. It goes through corners great. Check out John's, NotATA, #14 car build. He runs a simple bolt together suspension and has been for many years with lots of track time.

Forgot to ask earlier, why the choice of late 2nd gen formula scoops and not the early ones? I believe the early ones actually work if I'm not mistaken.

Love rendering one. I think the single stripe would look good. However, the last rendering with everything one color is nice as well. In general, I prefer a spoiler on the rear of a 2nd gen. They look naked without one.

Good luck regardless.

Go with the composite leafs and good shocks and you may find the rear suspension is more supple than the front. I know I did.

Great idea.

All
Thanks so much for the input. All of this is helpful to a newbie like me.
So I'm definitely going with a crate option for power instead of "modernizing" the old 400.
The builder I'm working with suggest an LS paired with a Kenne Bell 3.6 SC similar to the photo thoughts?



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That's a great choice in motors but what I've learned from the last 3 projects is less is more. Do a GM crate motor with a factory harness and a factory tune and you won't regret it. It will run and drive just like a new car which should be your end goal.


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syborg tt, I agree with you but I don't see an unmolested crate option that will get me in the 850 hp range. You have any suggestions?


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It's not 850hp but it's more then enough for a 2nd gen.

I have 2nd Gen with 468hp at the fly wheel and it's a handful. I also have a 650hp 5th gen and trust me that is plenty and it has scared the **** out of me on many occasions. People get hung up with big HP number which in most cases are completely useless for the street or track. Plus there are truly only a handful of people that can actually handle a car with high horsepower. In most case the HP gets us in trouble an we end up losing control of the car and wrecking the car.

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So I have my final rendering of what we are going to go with from a design standpoint. Next is to do the interior rendering. I'm open to ideas. Parts list will be posted next. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...2ede240bfb.jpg


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Thought? Comments? Here is the rear qtr rendering. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...ae33c69c9b.png


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Looks great from here!

I really like the rendering...few notes just my opinion but I think your asking for them... here goes... the rear spoiler Love it.. the front iss very good looking but worried about practicality.. the tailpipes.. they look very busy with the defuser... i would either have the exhaust exit behind the wheel (like a bandit trans Am) and have the defuser go from side to side.. or have the tails exit as you have them and skip the defuser.. Love the concave wheels.

Also just wondering If you going OEM Brewster green or are you looking at newer greens? I am also going green and I have been obsessing on color and wanted to see if you have found any info or Websites were you can get a good look at the color. I plan on having my body guy do some spray outs... My current leading Green is Dark Olive Metallic from Porsche

Thanks for the input xlexustech. I kind of agree with you on the pipes.

On the color, it will be OEM Brewster Green as that is the color it currently is. My father purchased the car new in 71 and it has been in my family ever since. So keeping the OEM color is very important to me.


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Hey just noticed DSE did a car like yours.. you should hop over and take a look

Just found this. https://www.facebook.com/detroitspee...5819506110258/

That's one of SW's cars. Well, partly his anyway. DSE's website has hundreds of pictures of it.

http://www.detroitspeed.com/Projects...s-Am-pg-1.html

x2 on the tips being too busy. Another thought you could do is to have the tail pipes simply exit out of the diffuser with just enough sticking out to get the exhaust smell away from the car. The rest of the pipe would be hidden by the diffuser.

Love it! Good luck.....hope all goes well.

Well, it's finally getting real. Car was sent down to RMR Dreamcars in Hudson FL today for Mike Staveski and his team to start the build http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...3786ad407a.jpg

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Getting real. Car left today for RMR Dreamcars in Hudson FL for Mike Staveski and his team to start the build
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And so it begins :hello:

It appears to be an overall solid car, we will disassemble it & get it blasted. The blasting always tells the story. We will keep everyone posted on this killer project!!

Thanks
Mike

Although I may have to change the title of this thread to Formula Laurentian Green Project


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Updated pics

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Glad to see this build kicking off! If it looks anything like the render, this will be one of the coolest FB's out there!