Mark (Stielow's) new ride??
 

Hey guy's,

Just read http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/pro...t-1969-camaro/

And came over figuring it'd be started already and i might get a bit more, but didnt find anything?

Has it been started on here yet or not? If so, care to show me the way?

Thanks,

Lead.

Ps, had i knew he was looking for a new, dry, solid and all orig project i would have sold him Goldie, my 47k miles all orig 69'. Looke way better condition than that green car.... you missed out on a great car Mark!!!

But how much is Goldie ? I know how much the green car was.

This will be a fun build to watch.

I sold her last Jan for 30. But that was Canadian money.... so like 350$

Lol!


Lead.

That was my initial post.... has it started yet?

Lead.

Lead, I don't think that there is a thread on here. I've seen a few pictures of this car, but no build thread. Maybe Charlie will give some insight here..

Hey thanks Scott,

Mario

Can't wait to see that old tub painted Mark.


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I would guess that because things are being covered in a magazine, there will be minimal posts about it. They still have to sell issues right?

Here's to hoping I'm wrong.

I hope he post about the build

Funny, I was thinking the same when I saw this topic two days ago.


If Mark was feeling really generous, he could post more detailed stuff for us hardcore types AFTER the content hit the magazine. Just saying... :D :idea:

I get what you guys are saying, but most of his cars make the magazines. He's thrown up quite a few build threads of the others, so why is this one different?
Again, I'm hoping that Charlie, or even Mark himself will chime in.

What I read was in simple terms DSE frame and suspension, big brakes, and all the other goodies without the paint &body work they are trying to portray a "simple" build that the average joe could build without again the paint & body price tag....

If anyone has heard differently please correct me.

Definitely interested in a new Stielow build myself!

And..... This one is targeting moderate (650) HP goals vs. one-upping the previous build(s).

I was sort of hoping there would be a build thread here as well. Magazine builds are so stripped down they offer almost nothing but pretty pictures and we know and love most of the vendors already. I love Mark's builds and frequently "borrow" his good ideas. Learning about the engine would be really cool. I am sure a lot of thought has to go into that!
Plus, I am sort of protesting Super Chevy because I am still stinging from the cancellation of Camaro Performers. They still send "bait" e-mails that say Camaro Performers but when you open them it is just Super Chevy. Sort of irritated me I guess!

I did start a build tread on this car but stopped because I am building it up with Chevrolet High Performance Magazine. I have not done a magazine build up in a long time so I thought it would be fun. So far it has been. I purchased the green beauty off Charley Lillard after talking him into purchasing it off EBay.

The car has a super cool original paint with a DX1 strip. The two super long lead things on a build are paint and engine builds. So I thought why not do a pintina car with a crate engine. I have been able to drive a bunch on LT4 powered GM vehicles and love the way that engine works. The ZL1 fixed all the cooling issues and that car hauls and does not get hot.

This car is for fun and not an effort to win Optima. I had a great run at Optima but I'm done chasing it for now.

I will add a build tread on this project after it runs on line or in print in CHP.

I feel the LT4 will be a popular swap soon. There are a few tech issue to work out and I'll publish / post them when I sort it out. The original build will be a stock LT4 but we are already looking at performance mods.

Mark

Looking forward to seeing the story!

Thanks for the update mark

Good luck, Mark!

Thanks for the update Mark!

I love hi-po patina cars !

70-73
 

I still want you to do a 2nd gen... :beathorse

So is mark keeping "jackass", or selling it and focusing on the new build . The 2.0 updates to it will make it feel like a new car !

Thx for the update, it does seem curious that there hasn't been a lot of builds to reference regarding an LT4 crate install as it has been out for a while now.

I know of the Ironworks Fairway Camaro and the Forgeline 2nd Gen and another 1st gen over at Smittys Custom Chris is working on incorporating the LT4 - but so far no real world post install drivability results. I wonder if the cooling issues in the Corvette or these tech issue you speak off has put a damper on more projects incorporating the LT4.Tell the other Jason to stay away from this one lol

Saw the Jackass 2.0 do a rolling burnout from 70 to over 150 + over the summer it was glorious

Chevy High Performance
 

Sorry for no updates.

This build-up is in Chevrolet High Performance in print and on line in Super Chevy.

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/pro...t-1969-camaro/

Here are a couple shots as it sits right now.

Thrashing to get it ready for Motorstate Challenge July 21.

I am not a Chevy guy but I like where this is going after reading your update.

This shows a normal guy what can be accomplished with hard work, and almost all off the shelf parts from what i am reading. I think a guy like me could do something like this within his means.

Very cool!

Thank you!

Car looks great as always.

Now I am not sure which car I will like more your new 69 or Gordon's 67.

Quick question on the ABS is it a stand alone system that anyone can buy or are you piecing it together with your knowledge of the system ?

Was wondering the same thing. I think this is the part that the average guy does not have access to. And likely never will due to liability concerns.

Don

I pieced together the system myself based on a 2006 - 2007 Corvette Delphi system. If you trick the module to think it is still in a Corvette it will work. I did a custom cal To remove all base chassis controls and traction control. I used the same system in Red Devil and Mayhem. Before a get a ton of questions about it I do not want to give out the cal due to the complexities of the system. It took me 2 years to get it to work flawlessly on Red Devil. I do this stuff as a hobby and don't mind helping some people but I feel the custom ABS stuff and wiring maybe over most peoples head. Also the failure modes are bad.

That is what I thought and I understand the complexity and it is way above my knowledge base. Just impressed that you were able to create a working system in a vintage car.

Don, you are correct. My lawyer told me if I want to keep my house don't sell this system..... During development on this system it failed 20 during testing.

Bosch makes a system but cost around $7000 not counting the hardware. I used the Delphi stuff because I had some left over parts.

Custom ABS module
Custom wheel bearing to get the Pre-2009 non active wheel speed sensors
Custom axle ends to allow a Corvette ZR1 wheel bearing with a built in wheel speed sensor. Now a few companies sell the axle ends like Detroit Speed.

So if you want ABS the best way to go today is the Bosch stuff with production ZR1 wheel bearings.

Mark

Looks good! Can't wait to see it out!

Looks like I overstated my post, lol...

Wasn't exaggerating my capabilities, was only saying you were building something a common guy may be able to attempt.

Then the ABS stuff came out, sorry I was wrong...

:underchair:

Already in love with it...

Hey Mark, loving this car!

I have a question for the group.
Does the OEM LT-4 Dry Sump pan work with a factory subframe or is an aftermarket version required?

Thanks!

Mark,

If you can elaborate (at this point), what you did for the fuel system? Additionally, does the FED fit into the subframe any better than your experiences with the LS7 / 9 combo?

Looking forward to seeing more. Always enjoyable to follow your builds.

Tim

Mark,

Great build again. I'm working on my own LT4 upgrade, on track for later this summer. Did you change out the supercharger for the 2017 version, or just the lid? And any hints as to what you did for that power steering pump?

Thanks, Scott

The LS 7 pan and the dry sump LT4 pans are very close so from that data I would say the LT4 dry sump pan will not fit the stock Fist Gen Camar subframe. But, Holley is doing a LT wet sump pan that should fit.