New shop at my house
 

My fiance and I moved to Orangevale, Ca back in December to get some more space for the kids to roam and to finally get the cars f out of the garage and into a shop. While it isn't a vast landscape, we're finally out of suburbia and into a small piece of land we can enjoy. It's .6 acres and almost fully landscaped with a dozen citrus trees, grapes, etc. With the little uptick in the economy, architects are booked out months for plans. I wanted around 1000 feet for my shop and ended up finding a company called Barn Pros. that sells a 960 foot shop with good plans through Home Depot. After doing my research, we bought. The whole thing lands here May 1st so it'll be interesting to see how it comes. It's stick frame, comes with a good comp roof, garage doors, 6 windows, and a fiberglass man door. So far, the service has been top notch. Now I'm dealing with the county for my permit, tree fines (yeah, I guess I don't own them according to the county), and the concrete guy. Here's the pics so far.

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Our plan is get married in this new shop in September, so the race is on. Neeldess to say, we are extremely excited.

Congrats on the expansion--I don't know how I could live without the space I have now, even after spending all of my 20s (and part of my 30s) living in apartments and a duplex. Keep us posted on the shop. I've been wishing for one going on six years now . . .

How much do they nail you for when you want to cut a tree? I know the oaks are protected in Sacramento county, but what else?

Thanks I appreciate the congrats. Yes Sac County has been very entertaining regarding the big oak back there. When I bought this house last year, I called the "tree people" as they're known at the county office to see if it was a heritage Oak, but it wasn't registered. However, this year when I went through the planning process, the inspector put a tree hold on my final permit, with a provisional permit to build. This means they want to inspect all operations during the build to ensure that we don't disturb that tree.......even though it's 23 feet away. These inspections are on top of the normal building inspections to be done as scheduled. The liberal.....I mean woman at the tree office has also decided that we should pay a $1500 one time fine for "encroaching on a protected oak that has the potential of growing a branch in my construction site's direction one day" (her words). When asked how she arrived at her figure, she said she uses a my site plan to determine how much potential damage the tree could take IF it grew a branch in that direction. Basically, she made it up.

Last night I explained the situation to my kids using ice cream as the example instead of the Oak. They were confused in that they paid for the ice cream, and now have to pay again to enjoy it. Welcome to dealing with the government kids.

That's such BS...

Awesome! That sounds like exactly what I need, never heard of them. i was looking at $40k+ for a site built shop. Can't wait to see this progress, congrats!

That is some real BS for sure. Holy cow!

Good luck on the new shop! I grew up in a house that my back yard was the driveway, and my front yard was the parking lot of the restaurant next door. Not a blade of grass to be seen. Now living in the country on 2 acres and having two 36x28 garages I sometimes have to pinch myself to believe it! Having that back yard shop is a dream come true without question.

No rakes, no bikes, etc, etc. My wife and daughters call that garage "Man Town" Lol......


I look forward to watching you build up yours.

Gotta love California liberal b.s.!
Looking forward to this build!

I'm not sure which is worse. Those rules in California or watching thousands of acres of 100+ year old oak trees bulldozed and burned to build subdivisions in Texas. It's a shame there is no middle ground...

Don

Yeah, the oak protection is a bit weird, but it's nothing compared to the $30-50k building permit fees in my county (El Dorado). Property costs still seem somewhat reasonable, but with a home, they kind of pin the meter. To build, you need some hard cash. Nevertheless, there are many where I live who have some nice non-permit shops . . .

Let me know if you need to get rid of any of that protected oak. They still let us burn stuff in my neck of the woods.

Yeah I work in El Dorado County and it's insanely challenging to build so much as a wood shed out here.

Permit should be all in this week! Come on concrete guy.

30-50K permit fees:hairpullout: Wow, that's a lot. I think the permit fee here to build my house was less than $500.

wtf!? That's crazy man. So far, my permit has been about $1500 all in. What was interesting though is that the county scans the address for any additional potential permits. In my case they found that my hot water heater operating permit was out of date. Got that fixed- $1000 later. Cool lol

Grading is done. Time for a wall and some footing forms.

Congrats on the wedding , and of course the new garage.

OMG, a potential root growing toward your garage, LMAO, she must be one of those ANTIFA nuts :EmoteClueless:

WOW, beautiful place!

Looking forward to the garage pictures Dave.

Joe

Thanks Joe on both notes. We're super excited. Forms for the footings went in yesterday and the electrician came out to survey the panel to ensure it'll support the shop's requirements. Footings are ridiculously massive, but that's what the plans call for. These "kits" (if you can call it that) are sold all over the U.S. where different states have seismic requirements or flooding issues, so they make them extremely robust.

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That fee is rediculous, do they make you pay another fee when the leafs fall off in the fall because that's your fault too? lol

How did the kit look when it showed up? I have been looking at these online.

Currently Looking to move to the country, if the house doesn't have a detached garage one is getting put up. Just wanted to know your opinion

no kidding man. God forbid one of her branches falls on a car I built with my post-taxed money. How would the branch feel!? lol

The shop is waiting delivery in Roseville right now. It's not complete yet, waiting on the trusses to show up. I'm trying to hold them off until the 26th. I will post up some pics when it arrives. So far the concrete guy and framer are very impressed with its completeness and the plans.

Nopants,

Just a thought since your early in the build any thoughts on running conduit for things like power or internet out to the shop from the house? Seems from the pictures would be easy to add some conduit for some cat 6 cables at the very least. Even if you wanted to wireless in the shop having some cat 6 out there to the shop and add wifi from the shop would be much better experience. Just a thought.

D-$

Not sure how I missed this! WTF --- that's going to be so sweet!

Love the tree --- it's a hassle but I get it..... In the end - you'll have the tree and a shop!

And your jobsite foreman is a Boston Terrier !!!!!!!!!!!:trophy-1302:

Foreman
 

Noticed that too .. I have 3 and they certainly know how to boss people around !!
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Looking good
Cheers
Steve

Yeah I'm running the conduit this weekend from my panel out to the shop corner. The ground is being put in a few feet back from that leading corner. Luckily the panel will support it.

Thanks Greg. Yeah I was adamant about keeping that Olive tree out front. It's almost 100 years old and part of an original orchard that dominated that area. The oak could fall and I could care less.

Ok that dog is the best damn dog I have ever owned. Super ugly, always smells like death- even during the actual bath, and the dominant dog in the yard. However, she's incredibly smart, fast, and loyal. She's killed three moles and two birds since we started this project. She always puts the moles down on the footing trenches.

I've had 6 Bostons. Son has1 daughter has 2. my best dog ever was a Boston.

WTH are you doing to the poor things??? LOL


I've had 4 dogs in the last 30 years --- the Beagles lived to be 17 (brother and sister) -- weird -- Alice got sick (cancer) and died -- nothing wrong with Elvis at all - 6 months later he passed. They never moved unless they were shoulder to shoulder.....


Stella is 4 now and "Shadow" is 13 weeks..... looks like once Shadow (AKA "Bugger") and Stella are going to be the same way. Thus the "Shadow" moniker.

mole killer

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They say dogs will eventually look like their owners, but that Boston somehow looks like Greg Weld, and he totally doesn't live in Roseville . . .

Wait! I've spent many nights in Roseville!

Any chance that mole killer is for rent? :D

I (well I should say we...no scratch that...My wife) has a female Australian Terrier that is a killing machine. She's funny too, she'll attack wasps like crazy and kill them without getting bit...but she has no interest in a spider walking across the floor. I've seen her grab snakes we didn't even see off the side of a walking path and beat them to death...then just continue walking away like nothing happened. She's had limited success with the mice and moles that live in the evergreen bushes in our backyard though...not for a lack of effort though. She has the heart, just needs some tutelage I think.

Shop looks great! Bet you can't wait for it to be done.

Aussie's are a bad ass dog. I have always wanted one. Now that I have some space that might just happen.

Footings are being poured today. Slab tomorrow. Pics tonight!

Caught this picture of Ginger hunting mice the other day...she'll lay there for hours...

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I love those dogs. Super fast and smart as a whip.

We have a pad! Concrete guy is Jerry Solomon and did a phenomenal job getting me a dead flat, super slick finish. It's got two piers buried in a corner for my lift at 8 inches. The rest of the floor is 4 inches thick. They also graded the area for a new lawn and laid all of the gravel for my trailer parking area. First round of inspections went without a hitch. Onward to framing next week.

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Nice! Love the backyard and shop!

looks good Dave:thumbsup:

Did the tree hugger lady disappear in the pour like Jimmy Hoffa? :peepwall:

Thanks bud !

hahahaha- concrete shoes! Was kind of funny as the inspector that's been assigned to my structure was very confused. He is an older guy with a ton of experience. One of those guys who knows his stuff and doesn't rattle. He asked how I got a building permit without paying the fine to the tree shrew first. I of course couldn't answer that as I'm just going through the motions as directed by the county. Soooooooo......I asked him if he would be willing to sign all three inspections without me paying the shrew. He looked at me over his glasses and said "I could care less what you do with the tree lady. If you build this structure exactly as you told us you would, I'm going to sign you off as completed. "

The shrew may not get that call.

Hahahaha thats awesome! Congrats on having at least one cool guy in your corner.

This is my first construction build of any kind and I'm learning quickly that allies inside make all the difference man.

Looking good bud. Congrats on the new shop!

Thanks Josh. We're pretty excited.

I have wood! Truck rolled up last night and delivered the dimensional and the siding materials. The trusses showed up this morning and look excellent.

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We also spent the weekend building a small retaining wall. It's lined with water barrier and has a 4 inch perforated drain system under crushed rock behind it. That's some hard work man. No Oak trees were harmed in this process. I'm beat. Framing starts today!

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Awesome. You are trucking along.

and the beet keeps rolling along. Framing has begun and these guys are flying man.

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