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Ben@SpeedTech 10-05-2017 01:55 PM

Speedtech Builds Karl's Camaro!
 
Funny how this industry is. Where else can you start a project, decide to go a different direction, then come across another guy that wants a project like yours and takes it on to be his own, promising to take really good care of it. It's like a win win big warm and fuzzy family, right?

Such is the case with this new Speedtech ExtReme Camaro build. Some time ago we started a 69 Camaro project for a client. With big changes at work and being clear back on the east coast he decided a different route was more suited to him, but was stuck with the dilemma of selling his partially built '69 Camaro to the right person. Just so happens a local fellow had a '68 Camaro he was building but had a bad itch for a '69 instead, and heard about the car here for sale. Low and behold, the car stayed in our build shop and is now under way again. BTW the '68 is for sale now :D.

Here's the car when it came to us some time ago. As a clone it looked pretty nice but that was on the surface and reality check showed it was a little ugly according to disassembly media blasting.

https://i.imgur.com/kZWTpES.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/CnR9CdL.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hgNOERe.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech 10-05-2017 01:56 PM

This is only part of the issues we found, including patches all over.

https://i.imgur.com/mMKCj28.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/2gtek8g.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JKrQ84S.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zbDajjR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5KbvwXr.jpg

More coming soon...

Ben@SpeedTech 10-10-2017 10:48 AM

The body was so messed up on this car that we considered doing an entire new aftermarket body. In the end it turned out more cost conscious to replace what was needed and salvage what we could. It's really surprising what was under the paint and what appeared to be a fairly straight body, the previous "Bondo Sculptor" did a great job hiding it all. Here's a list of the new sheetmetal we put on:
  • Both rear 1/4s
  • Both rockers
  • Both doors
  • Both fenders
  • Top of the dash
  • Firewall
  • Complete floor
  • Complete deep rear wheel tubs
In the process this car is also receiving a few body upgrades:
  • Tucked rear bumper
  • Shaved drip rails
  • Bullet mirrors
  • Razor hood
  • Custom front valance
  • Custom sheetmetal dash
  • ExtReme frame connectors
  • Something a little different for the rear seat area
  • Bolt-in custom roll cage
Here are a few pics to get started with...

https://i.imgur.com/aMa5d5b.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lRf4Cti.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gHiQCE3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/hv0pN95.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/mKUAL5U.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech 10-12-2017 01:23 PM

Test fitting the fiberglass interior pieces. These came from 3 different product manufacturers, Modern Classic Interiors, Fesler, and Marquez.

https://i.imgur.com/FUhw6EB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/6gcEkcP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lE1Aouw.jpg

waynieZ 10-12-2017 04:58 PM

Wow Ben looking good!

simbad's68 10-13-2017 05:58 AM

How's the fit on Door panels? I haven't had much luck finding reviews on them.

Blake Foster 10-13-2017 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simbad's68 (Post 667256)
How's the fit on Door panels? I haven't had much luck finding reviews on them.

pretty good, you have to invent the mounting system but no real fit issues. the finish is good as well.

Ben@SpeedTech 10-17-2017 10:39 AM

Back to the body work. Along with the new sheet metal we're doing a couple subtle upgrades like shaving the drip rails. This is one of those design cues that really smooths the visual flow of the car.

https://i.imgur.com/5nFiynR.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech 10-31-2017 10:10 AM

As we roll through the visual design plans on this car it's going to be a great blend of subtly bold, if there is such a thing. The exterior colors will be charcoal gray metallic, black, an accent of silver and maybe just a tiny splash of red. Nothing new right? But between the unique exterior stripe design and the interior layout we're anticipating this car will still jump out in a crowd and even with low key colors will create a decent level of boldness.

Here's a copy of the interior rendering I put together. Karl's always had a dream of driving a Camaro in the Silver State Classic as well as doing some Pro Touring events so we're setting up the interior to be able to easily exchange a proper race seat for the normal street driver seat. This OMP seat we'll be using has a cool design sewn in so we've decided to play the rest of the interior off that.

With an SSC legal cage Karl doesn't see any folks climbing into the back so we're making the rear seat functional in a different way. The back rests will be opened to expose the 12" woofers, having the speaker grille follow the upholstery pattern. The lower seat portion will open up via seat belt type straps to reveal storage compartments. The package tray will sport a contoured layout for the speakers and the trunk will have fairly simple and smooth upholstery matched panels.

https://i.imgur.com/gIHk2uG.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NuAyCCD.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/BLtz4ue.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/o0oSqxj.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/RqQtPpQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FXOOEsH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SArkuNJ.jpg

waynieZ 10-31-2017 10:45 AM

I love the rendering for the interior, nice design. The project is coming along nice.

Ben@SpeedTech 11-01-2017 09:50 AM

Thanks!

Ben@SpeedTech 11-02-2017 02:29 PM

A little more progress on the dash with new vent openings, and mounts for the hidden stereo equipment and battery out back.

https://i.imgur.com/W4dSxJB.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zn5p127.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/zyMzz46.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech 11-02-2017 02:29 PM

And a couple fiberglass parts going up front.

https://i.imgur.com/fRhi2cZ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bMrebmh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0Baj0MS.jpg

Dave95z28 11-02-2017 03:26 PM

Love the new dash assembly. Awesome execution. Whose hood is that? I like the vents a lot.

dhutton 11-02-2017 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave95z28 (Post 668263)
Love the new dash assembly. Awesome execution. Whose hood is that? I like the vents a lot.

That is a Ring Brothers Razor hood.

Don

Ben@SpeedTech 11-03-2017 08:43 AM

Thanks Dave, and Yep, Don's correct.

frankv11 11-03-2017 11:37 PM

I like it , can't wait to see more

Ben@SpeedTech 11-07-2017 10:14 AM

The work continues with the Camaro, at this point Robert is getting all of the body lines and gaps fitted and matched while Jeremy reconstructed part of the firewall for the triple master kit and finalized the rear package tray. A full rendering and the start of the final body work are on deck!

https://i.imgur.com/RGNPsD7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wqQHhxA.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gkBesyM.jpg

syborg tt 11-07-2017 04:01 PM

Wow.

Very nice and I love the package tray.

GregWeld 11-07-2017 04:36 PM

This is turning out killer!! <LOL --- an old reference only Blake will get>


Funny how many of these Camaro's are little more than bondo queens -- all dressed up but underneath is just a mess..... Seen this dozens and dozens of times.

Ben@SpeedTech 11-08-2017 09:17 AM

Thanks Marty!

Greg- Lol! Yep it is Killer. Yeah, it's sad that so many cars have short cuts and slap together builds. I'll bet a good portion of the cars that roll through auctions are like that. I used to think that it was the cheap work of the shops but I now see that often it's the owner wanting a million dollar car on a fast food budget and bondo bandits are the only compromise. Luckily many of these cars circulate into the hands of folks that have the budget to bring them to shops where we can start fresh and do it right this time around. As the guy that gets to take the pics I really enjoy seeing that happen, and knowing another muscle car will be done right and good to go for years and years.

gofastwclass 11-08-2017 05:11 PM

Another factor is some cars (like mine) were repaired by collision shops in the 70's when these cars had nothing beyond daily driver value and zero aftermarket parts availability. Getting the car on the back road quickly was the first priority with low cost being the second.

One of the old timers I know told me how a place he worked would bang out the dents with a slide hammer, big mallets and other rough house tools then lather on the bondo like frosting a cake. When it was dry they would file and sand their creation until it looked close enough. The car would be sent to him to spray and ship out the door. If they did replace a panel, lap seams and mud were the name of the game. At several places he worked in that era it was all about speed and the bosses would fire guys who weren't fast enough.

Either way it still boils down to quality taking a distant second place to quantity. :bang:

Thankfully shops like yours and several others actually care about the cars they build and the customers they serve. Thank you for that and thank you for sharing some really nice work. :)

Ben@SpeedTech 11-09-2017 09:15 AM

Great point of view, thanks for sharing. Whatever the reason this sort of work takes place, we're grateful we're in a position to help take these cars to a higher level of build and restoration and preserve and improve a bit of our country's automotive history.

gofastwclass 11-09-2017 07:48 PM

Speaking personally, but I feel my opinion is shared on this topic... I would like to give a big thank you to your team, the other builders / shops, suppliers and individuals too numerous to individually name who make this hobby possible. Especially to the ones who push the limits from time to time and share their findings with the masses.

Ben@SpeedTech 11-10-2017 09:24 AM

Amen to that.

Ben@SpeedTech 11-16-2017 11:02 AM

We've been distracted a bit with prepping for the Good Guys show in Scottsdale this weekend, but I wanted to share this shot too until we get back on the car full throttle. Jerem'ys building some inserts for the hood, and notice he's using a hexagon mesh. The same mesh will replace the factory grill and you'll see that pattern throughout the car. More coming soon!

https://i.imgur.com/k2SR4Os.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech 11-28-2017 10:02 AM

Karl's Camaro is now in the body shop area getting the sheet metal worked out. For those not so familiar with what it takes to achieve a high end finish on a car this photo does a great job of illustrating the hours that potentially go into it. Even with brand new 1/4 panels it's almost surprising how ripply the metal can be. You can see some slight manufacturing impressions in the sanded areas and some more prominent areas got a little hammer and dolly and a skim coat of filler to be worked to get that show perfect laser straight finish. More coming soon!

https://i.imgur.com/kecvGC1.jpg

gofastwclass 11-28-2017 07:26 PM

Nice progress. There are hours invested in hanging quarters properly and even more hours in making them show car straight.

tmadden 12-02-2017 05:01 AM

Love the hood. Can’t wait to see it finished

Ben@SpeedTech 12-13-2017 09:52 AM

Thanks fellas!

Key body work is now done and then it moved over to the paint booth for the first spray of primer. Next up, lots and lots of block sanding...

https://i.imgur.com/VJtWf8Q.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/tlwG2iq.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/37EAbyP.jpg

Ben@SpeedTech 01-08-2018 11:48 AM

All that prep work really pays off. Karls' car now wears a fresh new hue, the same charcoal gray metallic his Ford Raptor wears. Next up- cut and buff for the smooth as glass show car punch!

For those of you near Nevada, we're doing a vendor booth at the big Mesquite motor mania car show this weekend, Jan 12-14th. We'll be doing demonstrations on how we cut and buff on this car right at the show. Stop by and check it out!

https://i.imgur.com/kRquk37.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ZI3jni7.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0dx8Xd3.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/j5xgNri.jpg

Spiffav8 01-08-2018 02:01 PM

Love that color!! Had it on an F-150 and loved it.

Might cruise up and say hello this weekend.

Blake Foster 01-09-2018 09:22 AM

we will be at the Mesquite car show all week end

GregWeld 01-09-2018 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blake Foster (Post 671431)
we will be at the Mesquite car show all week end

All the cool kids are in Scottsdale.....


:buttkick:

gofastwclass 01-09-2018 04:51 PM

Ouch!

GregWeld 01-09-2018 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gofastwclass (Post 671439)
Ouch!

LOL



I'm here for my Mayo clinic clean out.... so I hope it's not an OUCH!!

Blake Foster 01-10-2018 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregWeld (Post 671432)
All the cool kids are in Scottsdale.....


:buttkick:

WELL DAMN!!

Ben@SpeedTech 01-18-2018 11:11 AM

Now on to wet sanding... and wet sanding... and wet sanding... ;) Bob's moving right along on the cut and buff and it looks incredible! For other outer visuals here's also a pic of the front Forgeline wheel with a black chrome finish. The rear wheels have a similar positive offset look except the center mounting pad area is more concave.

https://i.imgur.com/kb7e0V5.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/NgBVrph.jpg

syborg tt 01-18-2018 12:40 PM

Really love watching this build

Panteracer 01-18-2018 07:10 PM

Karl's Camaro
 
Love the Black chrome
Bob


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