Anyone know about this subframe?
 

http://www.musclecarworks.com/subframe/index1.html

Anyone know about this subframe? It looks nice and the price seems right too.

Mike

Kind of looks like a 21st subframe.

Well if you look its a Chassis works subframe with mounting plates for C5 suspension. I guess he gets the frame rails from chassis works and makes the mods for the C5 stuff using his own jigs. I was just wondering if anyone has used this subframe or have more info on how well it performs.

Mike

The owner or the shop is selling the car that is pictured on the website and it is not finished.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevr...QQcmdZViewItem

Not really. The 21st Century sub has inserts that allow fine tuning of the UCA mounting point, retains the C-5 LCA eccentrics for alignment and is (based solely at looking at the pictures on the Muscle Car Works site) beefier. If you look closely at the linked shot (http://www.musclecarworks.com/subfra...Sub%20Lg11.JPG), the alignment system - washers behind the UCA bushing mounting points - looks (to put it kindly) a little jury-rigged as compared to the C5 setup used on the 21st Century sub. That said it MAY be cost effective.

21st
 

the only thing the eccentrics do is chang ethe angle of the uca, weather its for anti dive or whatever they are a circle track peice, not some ingenious 21st made part

What he said.. that's not a 21st Century Frame..

I'm amazed how many different 1st gen subs are on the market.. crazy..

Who said they invented it? They are the only people that have incorporated it into a subframe. Or do you think that it's bad to have more options for suspension tuning?

It's nice to have options.. right?

I never claimed they invented it, perhaps nuclear fusion, but not the little inserts. And in any event they (and the LCA eccentrics) are better than the "stacked washer" alignment system.

easy
 

calm down, options are nice, all i am saying is it is a circle track part, yes 21st may be the first to use it i have no idea.
its ok guys verything will be ok :thumbsup:

It's all good Jake.. you just sounded like you misunderstood what what was said..

group hug?? :rofl:

the eccentrics are on the lower control arms
 

and they are the same as on the C5 vette. They actually sourced from the Gm parts counter.

i missued the word eccentric, i called the upper peices eccentrics, they are most often reffered to as "slugs " in the circle track world.
the lower are the stock peices for sure,
ok back to the question

I think this subframe looks really good piece! Might be little bit lighter than 21st sub ?

Yea, I knew what you meant.. the slugs (what I call em) are from the circle track world. The lower eccentric bolts for the lower control arms are pretty cool. Ed told me it was a pain to get the tollerances right for that feature.

I just laid out the story on installing it (for the December issue)

Kinda looks alot more inexpensive than Detroits new peice lol