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comp-spec 09-03-2006 12:34 PM

Opinion on grill
 
I have the car getting a new stereo and they say know one likes the grill
Making some changes for SEMA. Would like to know what u thought?
http://www.competition-specialties.c...complete02.jpg
http://www.competition-specialties.c...complete44.jpg
http://www.competition-specialties.c...complete11.jpg

black2002ls 09-03-2006 12:36 PM

I could go either way. I've never been a fan of billet grilles that cover the head lights. but then again, it looks good......

4mm 09-03-2006 01:11 PM

Same here, not a fan of the grille.

mazspeed 09-03-2006 01:27 PM

Try painting the grill black, more of a stock color and see what it looks like.

fatlife 09-03-2006 01:47 PM

No offense, but I think it is butt-ugly. too much going on, looks like someone tried to hard to make the car look custom. Looks cluttered, non fuctional, and out of place. sorry :(

ilovefirstgens 09-03-2006 01:59 PM

yea, no offense to who made it but imho it ruins the car.... it does the 3 things i hate most on grills, billet bars, covering the headlights, and most of all being flush mount.

The rest of the car is awesome though!

comp-spec 09-03-2006 02:09 PM

no offense will be taking at all just want to here your thoughs.
I bet this is 1 of the most driven cars

aonghus 09-03-2006 02:34 PM

The grill makes me expect to hear electric razor noises as the car revs. :-\

Hardcoat that sucker black, sink her back about 1.5-2.5"

Ya can probobly get away with covering the headlights, but doing so just evokes 'wierd' from all of us being so used to the stock RS stuff.

rocketrod 09-03-2006 03:05 PM

Sorry but I don't like it at all. Even though they are pretty common I think a stock RS grill would look killer.

comp-spec 09-03-2006 03:12 PM

thought I'd post some pics with no grill
http://www.competition-specialties.c...o1/paint36.jpg
http://www.competition-specialties.c...o1/paint38.jpg
http://www.competition-specialties.c...o1/paint39.jpg

Mikael A 09-03-2006 03:20 PM

grill
 
Try cutting the grill to fit in between the two headlights inside of
the area that leads to the radiator

Mike

Musclerodz 09-03-2006 03:55 PM

Paint the structure behind the grill black, and recess the grill. It will look more like a '68 grill with chrome strips. The worst part about it is the orange behind it.

Mike

comp-spec 09-03-2006 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky67
Sorry, it looks like a show car. Driven means cross country. Not in Florida.
Jeff

Sparky this car IS a show car. An ISCA best of show winner, but that doesnt mean it doesnt get driven. The car drove from Boston to Orlando Florida for the 2006 Hot Rod power tour and drove the entire tour 3500 MILES. The only problem I had was 1 broken air ride shock which was replaced on the road. I dont know what you mean when you say hidden headlights make a 67 Camaro...it is a 67 Camaro, and has hidden headlights

Mikael A 09-03-2006 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz
Paint the structure behind the grill black, and recess the grill. It will look more like a '68 grill with chrome strips. The worst part about it is the orange behind it.

Mike


something like this

comp-spec 09-03-2006 04:21 PM

The entire car is painted Kandy Orange(tagarine)...inside out, top bottom, wheel wells engine bay core support, backs of fenders...there is no black on the entire care....black would look out of place. I know what you saying with the black behind there...it just wont work with this car.

Mr.VENGEANCE 09-03-2006 04:32 PM

but the original RS grille will look out of place in such a custom car.

if you change it.. you should modify the rs grille also.. perhaps spraying it black then paint the slats orange. or mound billet slats over orange.

awesometool 09-03-2006 04:37 PM

I live in Ma. and have seen it at the world of wheels and all I can say is WOW nice ride. The only thing me and three other people said their was it had a very bla grille for such an exteme ride.

BRIAN 09-03-2006 08:52 PM

I have seen your car and the detail and paint are killer. The grille is just too 80's looking. Maybe use the stock lamp bucket portin painted car color and keep your billet in the center only. The paint is such a stand out that you just do not need the custom grille.

Musclerodz 09-03-2006 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comp-spec
The entire car is painted Kandy Orange(tagarine)...inside out, top bottom, wheel wells engine bay core support, backs of fenders...there is no black on the entire care....black would look out of place. I know what you saying with the black behind there...it just wont work with this car.

Sure there is... got tires don't it? :P At least paint the bars black on the grill and only leave the face shiny which should downplay the grill.

Mike

Bill Howell 09-03-2006 09:37 PM

I saw this car alot on the power tour, drive on baby.
I like the r/s grille on those cars too. the link Sparky posted is a great look to me. :thumbsup:

comp-spec 09-03-2006 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Musclerodz
Sure there is... got tires don't it? :P At least paint the bars black on the grill and only leave the face shiny which should downplay the grill.

Mike

We were thinking of that when we first put it on then said will pull it out and try it.
now 2 years later :lol:

comp-spec 09-03-2006 10:03 PM

We did a lot of metal work to the nose , not sure if a stock grill will fit anymore





fatlife 09-03-2006 10:21 PM

looks great without the grill! metal work looks good. And I don't agree that it has to go cross country to make it a driver

TonyG 09-03-2006 11:51 PM

The car has very extensive and beautiful work done to it. But personally the grill is the only thing that I like on the car.. I think it is the rest of the car that is too busy..

I like the idea of cutting the grill down to fit in the opening to the radiator; if you feel the need to change it.

jack67rs 09-04-2006 07:39 PM

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My car is also candy tangerine with stock grill, I was debating on making a billet grill. In the end, I probably would of powder coated it black.

ProTouring442 09-05-2006 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikael B Alfredsson
something like this


This has my vote! Maybe with a billet SS emblem in the middle.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
'72 442 "Inamorata"

trapin 09-05-2006 06:25 AM

comp-spec, if you paint the architecture behind the grille a titanium or silver color instead of body color it will help to wash out those features and not make it contrast as much. The titanium color is close to the aluminum color. Black is NOT an option.

Derek69SS 09-05-2006 09:13 AM

I think it would look much better if everything behind it were painted satin black. I know you said there's nothing else on the car that's black, but IMHO, you should never be able to see anything behind the grille.

I would paint everything behind it black, and tint the headlights just a bit to make them less noticeable. I would also paint all of the vertical bars that hold the grille together black also. Doing all this would put the focus on the grille itself, and not all the stuff behind it. It would look pretty clean then. :thumbsup:

Hdesign 09-05-2006 09:49 AM

I have the pleasure of seeing this car at many events throughout the year since it's in my neck of the woods.

First, the car looks awesome, the craftsmanship is phenomenal. I know wild modification was the intent. However, I personally thought the grill has a clean but dated look to it. I actually like the shapes behind the grill better than the grill itself. (which I know you probably spent a ton of time on). I've never been a fan of body colored panels behind grills anyway. I always preferred satin black. I also think if you are keeping the grill, recess it about 2 inches and maybe leave the forward facing edges polished while the rest is satin black. ( think that was mentioned before).

You weren't looking for this feedback but I also think a rectangular taillight (more stock) would fit the shape of the panel better. The Vette taillight mod is also a little dated, even if it's from a C5 Z06. Maybe do some recessed or flush rectangles and paint the tail panel satin black. (it may tie in the front/back)

In the end, do what YOU want. It's a kickass car no matter what you do! :D

Steve Chryssos 09-05-2006 11:00 AM

I ran with Pete on Power Tour. That car hauls ass and takes a good beatin'. Maybe it's a show car, but he didn't treat it like one--rain or shine. Which is why he's UPDATING it.

Then again Pete, I never noticed all that incredible metal work behind the grille. It's time to stop hiding it. The center opening is small enough that you can take a factory 67/68 RS grille and cut it down to fit. Then build a shiny stainless or chromed perimeter frame for the new cut down grille like the surround used on a 69 RS grille. Paint the plastic grille whatever color looks right to you-titanium, charcoal, argent.

Are you changing the wheels? I think the "flame" wheels are unnecessary given the paint job and body mods. Plus you can match the wheel center color to the grille color.

Payton King 09-05-2006 11:12 AM

grill
 
I have waited to respond because I cannot get over how cool the thing looks without the grill on. Man that was a ton of work and I think it is one of my favorite parts of the car.

I would leave all of that work exposed and place the grill at the very back of the opening....try it stainless, painted body color, whatever works, but please leave it exposed!

JayR 09-05-2006 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetfytr68
Are you changing the wheels? I think the "flame" wheels are unnecessary given the paint job and body mods. Plus you can match the wheel center color to the grille color.

Steve's right, the wheels are worse offenders than the grille. Sinking the grille with black bars and polished faces or milling a narrow surround with a billet insert and just doing a cenered SS style grille would look good.

Ricochet 09-05-2006 11:49 AM

First off all, Hat off's to you for driving such a killer car across the country!! I saw the car last year at SEMA & the workmanship is second to none. I personally did not care for the grill. It's not that it kills the car I just thin it would have looked better with something different. As said earlier, it kind of dates the car. The metal work behind the grill is beautiful. Is there a way to incooperate it to be shown & build something else? I know..ALOT of work. Some others have thrown out some good ideas. I also agree with Steve, the flamed wheels and steering wheel are a little much in my opinion. As you well know though everybody will be a critic & pick things apart. Etheir way, killer car. You guys do some nice work!!

Brent

rocketman 09-05-2006 12:42 PM

Stock grille all the way.looks much better

WicKeD_SS 09-05-2006 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocketman
Stock grille all the way.looks much better


Sorry I agree also!

rwhite692 09-05-2006 04:48 PM

It would be neat to build an egg-crate style grille for the center opening with very "deep" rectangle cavities approximately 1.25" tall x 2.5" wide, painted silver/argent color...the extensive work behind the grille is really slick, I had never noticed it before! :thumbsup:

comp-spec 09-05-2006 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky67
Well, I figured that was the reason. Anyway, there is some new technology that should help you change your grill. Now to develop for a Camaro would require a bit more time before sema. Anyway, it is LED headlights. Here is a prototype http://www.competition-specialties.com/pics/LED.jpg
Actually, I showed it Scott around 4 months ago. I think it would work, but it wil take some time to develop. The 69 headlight door would be perfect.

Jeff

Sparky....where should I mount this on my car to fix my grill? :_paranoid

Quote:

I think it would look much better if everything behind it were painted satin black. I know you said there's nothing else on the car that's black, but IMHO, you should never be able to see anything behind the grille.

I would paint everything behind it black, and tint the headlights just a bit to make them less noticeable. I would also paint all of the vertical bars that hold the grille together black also. Doing all this would put the focus on the grille itself, and not all the stuff behind it. It would look pretty clean then.
I uderstand the black behind the grill thing to hide everything behind, but painting behind the grill and radiator support is NOT an option on this car. Painting the grill bars black might be a option. Remember this IS a show off car, and black back there just will not work on this car.


Quote:

Then again Pete, I never noticed all that incredible metal work behind the grille. It's time to stop hiding it. The center opening is small enough that you can take a factory 67/68 RS grille and cut it down to fit. Then build a shiny stainless or chromed perimeter frame for the new cut down grille like the surround used on a 69 RS grille. Paint the plastic grille whatever color looks right to you-titanium, charcoal, argent.

Are you changing the wheels? I think the "flame" wheels are unnecessary given the paint job and body mods. Plus you can match the wheel center color to the grille color.
Whats up Steve, when we first built the car, I wanted to leave it with no grill, but in the end we decided to make a grill. So now I am thinking of leaving it out, thats why I asked what people thought. We are changing the wheels, steering wheel, interior (again) stereo (killer) rear wing, and a few other small changes.

Quote:

I have waited to respond because I cannot get over how cool the thing looks without the grill on. Man that was a ton of work and I think it is one of my favorite parts of the car.

I would leave all of that work exposed and place the grill at the very back of the opening....try it stainless, painted body color, whatever works, but please leave it exposed!
Thanks

Quote:

First off all, Hat off's to you for driving such a killer car across the country!! I saw the car last year at SEMA & the workmanship is second to none. I personally did not care for the grill. It's not that it kills the car I just thin it would have looked better with something different. As said earlier, it kind of dates the car. The metal work behind the grill is beautiful. Is there a way to incooperate it to be shown & build something else? I know..ALOT of work. Some others have thrown out some good ideas. I also agree with Steve, the flamed wheels and steering wheel are a little much in my opinion. As you well know though everybody will be a critic & pick things apart. Etheir way, killer car. You guys do some nice work!!
Thanks, and I agree the wheels and steering wheel are too much. Alot of the parts were bought for this car before it came to my shop, including the wheels, and steering wheel. We changed so much after it came, that we had to stop somewhere. Now its time for a change, so the first thing to go is the wheels, and steering wheel, I never liked them anyway.

Roger Poirier 09-06-2006 07:48 PM

The only way to make changes: See Kris Horton and have him do some 3 D renderings for your car with updated grilles.

I'm sure there is way toooooooo much money in this car already. It woulkd be good and wise money spent prior to making addtional changes that may or may not look correct on the car. What the heck do I know? My 2 cents.

R.P.


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