Been here before...want some opinions
 

Hey guys,

I have asked these questions before. I am looking for a pro touring camaro and wanted to know what you thought of this car. I am still in the stages of looking, but I like the exterior of the car and don't think it would need much more to make it into what I want. Would like to do an ls1/t56 conversion and update the interior. I don't care for the wheels either, but it has been mini tubbed.

Here is the link. He is asking $27k

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...MEWA:IT&ih=017

Weaver

I would highly suggest seeing the car in person. Too cheap, so that makes me nervous. I know it needs many things, but still too cheap.


Jody

Opinions? Good starting point. While it looks OK cosmetically I see several things that indicate to me they didn't spend much time on the "details"-- which is what really makes the car and is where the real money and time is.

Little things like not polishing out the gauge lenses, the hacker looking wiring on the firewall and alternator, the old yellowed window crank knobs, universal flexy-radiator hoses, plug wires that look to be laying on the headers on the passenger side, and so on all scream to me that while the car looks good in pics you may have a handful with half-assed or rushed stuff in the mechanical (and maybe bodywork) department when you finally see it in person. Looks like they took the easy way out and a lot of corners were cut either for time, effort, or money reasons, and hopefully they didn't cut any big ones.

I've seen many a heap (mechanically and build quality) lurking under shiny paint, and while this one isn't necessarily a heap I would count on going over it very carefully and spending some money on it to fix what's wrong. Hopefully not much more is wrong than what the pictures show...

That is first and foremost. Would also need a pre purchase inspection as well.

Thanks,

Weaver

It does not appear to be mini tubbed.

I would stay away from it. He clearly doesn't know what he is looking at or talking about. Claims "lasar straight", yeah, viewed in the dark with no moon. Look at the left fender to door gap, hood fit, deck lid high on right side. Car would need beat on to make straight like he claims and painted again. ALso says no expense was spared and looks like alot of it was spared. Junkyard headers and master cylinder, at least clean the rechargeable K&N airfilter. I may be a little harsh but I hate ads like that. Lip stick on a pig IMO.

Mike

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"no KNOWN rust issues" would worry me..

At first I thought it was scam since it looked so nice but it does need some TLC..

I would have it inspected by a professional.. trust me on this..

I Think Id pass, Painted trim cheap way out has some old school tubs no wiper motor bad fit and finish wiring under hood is under par cheap all over it, Keep looking they are out there and nice cars this car was purchased to sell and thats it! I dont want to bum you out but your 30K is hard money. spend it smart.

The fan and shroud combination; and lack of wipers/wiper motor are screaming cob job.

That is why I ask you guys.

Thanks,

Weaver

I usually check the sellers feedback rating and comments. This seller is keeping his feedback private. He won't let you see what previous buyers have said about him. That should be enough info to keep you away.

I would try to find a car that has not been restored or one that has had a paint job a while back. You would see how much straighter it would be and easier to detect what has popped up under the paint during that time.

Something like this but a bit less expensive since you are not looking into a Z28:

http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22189

I didn't even know you could do that. I don't see the point in having a rating system if the person could leave it private.

I see he's had 11 negative responses. I'd stay far away from this guy. That's a lot, IMO.

I actually think I know this car. It use to be near me in the St. Loiuis area. I wouldn't forget that orange. Car has been done at least 15 years ago. It was for sale for a long time too. It use to run 15" super lights, but now it has some bling wheels, which automatically makes it a "pro-touring" car, :rolleyes: .

mark you should know this car , isn't that the car that your brother kenny run's with ? it had superlites on it at indy . i has a decent paint job ( i dont think your brother did it ) .

Well. :rolleyes: I like the color. My biggest concern is the driver's door to front fender gap. That, coupled with the hood fit makes me wonder if the subframe is square to the unibody.

That left fender fit is my biggest gripe too. Typical of aftermarket fenders. I just looked at a '69 with the same problem I got to paint in a few weeks. You know the fiberglass hood won't be right without a ton of hours anyway.

Mike

Yeah, I think it's the same car. Seller is out of Osage MO. not sure if it was sold, or a dealer is trying to sell it for the guy. I never knew the guy that does, or use to own it.

I bought a Camaro from those guys a while ago for a friend, it was just ok. It looked better in the pictures. Like everyone said, go look at it. Keep looking and you will find the right car. You need to be at Pigeon Forge now, there will be several thousand cars there..

SW