Mule 200 mph dyno video; view from rear of car
 

Mule 200 mph chassis dyno

Jody

Tease!!!!! :D

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Dear God and Sunny Jesus I love that car!!

I like the fact that there are chains holding it down. If you get a 250MPH dyno then I may have to bring the Bonneville car up, you don’t mind yellow clouds do you :unibrow:

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I really like this video of the Mule and Malitude on the 2005 Hot Rod Power tour. :hail:
http://www.lateral-g.org/movies/2005hrpt.wmv

Very cool. what was the actual top speed during the simulation?
/Steevo

See, I have been telling my wife that we need more motor in our RS, but she just won't listen.

That PT vid really gets me reved up!! It just proves they truely were built to be driven...very cool stuff!!!

I LOVE that car....

200mph isn't a question of power and rpm without wind resistance.

I'd like to BE ABLE TO challenge that car against my low-buck turbo car. I know I could never compete with the fit/finish of that car, but bring my blow-thru carb's 406 twin turbo against that car and it will be my muscle against his finesse (and muscle) .

That video is AWESOME!!!! BTW. The Mule said " SEE YA!" Vive Camaro!! I wish there was vids after the twin turbo conversion.

(Okay, somewhat fixed)

If i remember, that has wind calculated in it. heck my N/A 243ci car runs 211mph so far (should hit 225 in a month), just depends on what you want to do with it.

Ooohhhh.... Dem'z fytin wurdz...

Lemme get my tape measure so I can start on the casket now. :P Just kidding.

That dyno is loaded to compensate for wind resistance, etc. So if you do 200 mph on it you'll likely do 200 mph on an open road. Plus it has a few things to keep it on the ground at speed that you don't.

Methinks you've bitten off more than you can chew. You're going to need 1000 HP and a car that is geared for it and can stay on the ground at that speed.

Jody

I'm a rough-neck street-racer. I easily get all-ruffled-up. I admire the Mule and both Mark Stielow and Charlie Lillard. I met Charile once and thought he was a really cool guy.

The dyno got an "Overspeed Error" at 200 mph https://lateral-g.net/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif https://lateral-g.net/forums/imag...s/biggrin1.gif

Jan

Making the power to push our "old bricks" to 200 isn't a very difficult task anymore with all the options out there. As Jody said, the trick is keeping the car in contact with the pavement at that speed. It's terrifying when the nose of the car gets so light that the steering wheel no longer seems connected to the tires. Factory spoilers or not, Camaros and their 1960's barn-door aerodynamics and lift instead of downforce will likely be terrifying at such speeds. It may not be a Camaro, but I've pushed my car up to 175mph running side by side with a friend's Viper GTS Coupe and I wouldn't do it again-- I got a very good look at the bright light and I don't care to see it again anytime soon. :eek: Yes, it was that scary. I think you'd have a very similar experience in a stock-bodied Camaro with no Aero trickery.

I've been just under 200 in a car before, but it had the aerodymanics to handle it (Ferrari F-40.) A much more stable and in-control experience, at least when I was driving. I was a very uneasy passenger going that fast.

My tires may be Y-rated to 186mph, but I know what would probably happen if I tried to reach/exceed that. Think of a flying car a-la Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang, but without any flight controls. I suppose at that point you could use the doors for rudimentary yaw control... :willy:

My suggestion, for your own sake, is to keep the talk of 200mph just that: talk. Unless you want to call the FAA and get a tail number assigned...

Troy

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Alot of cars will do 200mph. But like Jody said keeping it on the ground is another thing. A car going that fast is going to want to FLY with any chance it gets. You have seen those Nascar cars go flying with just a tiny bump. I would never want to be in a car going 200mph on the street, that just sounds terrifying. Not that Charley would do it, my money is on the MULE. :unibrow:

I believe those videos were after the twin turbo conversion since they are from 2005. Listen to them spool up as he pulls away on the highway. :unibrow:

Ya know... sometimes I hit the town and come home to post on boards. Then, like today, I wake up and smack my forehead. I sure wish I could delete that post!! Did I just call out The Mule?!


200mph is CRAZY talk. You guys know of my 70-130 burnout and how the car lifts at even that speed. 200 mph is a serious aerodynamic challenge. I think my trim will fly off approaching that speed. I'd need some real wingage for a jaunt like that.

Great videos, BTW. I love that car to pieces! :bow:

You can EDIT the post. :thumbsup:

That's exactly it Nathan. It's nothing against you, but even with the power the car has to remain stable or you're going to be in a world of trouble. You know what 130 mph felt like; now imagine 200!

By the way, e-mail me if you're serious about editing this out of the post.

Jody

"Very cool. what was the actual top speed during the simulation?"
/Steevo
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Steve Chryssos


Steve.. When it hit 200 the dyno went into the "Warning, over speed" mode and aborted the run so 200 was it.
Y-Try... Your car might beat mine as I don't know what you are making for power. As for going 200 mph in the real world, I don't even think the Mule is ready for it yet. We figure it still needs more spoiler on the front to keep the nose down. Big Red did it by pie cutting the front fenders to drop the nose more but I'm not will to go that route. I know we have the power but until I get it out somewhere it is just bench racing. I remember Mark with the Red Witch blowing windshield trim off at speed till he figured out someone had sold him the wrong trim clips.....

So does this mean no race??? :mad:

I'm just doing some friendly ribbing. No races will come from it. There's not really a specific challenge even. My car is no comparison to the Mule, except maybe on a dyno, but not without a ton more boost and an intercooler. (this is the sound of me back-peddling).

That's a cool dyno, though. I don't know of one down here that can simulate wind resistance. I think my point about dyno vs. real world is about all the other things mentioned (aerodynamics, downforce, lift-off, etc.) But I'm certainly not knocking the accomplishment of that car. I'm not THAT stupid.

I've edited the post, but it's been qouted so much that it will still be read. So I guess we can leave it for fun. It seems I get a bit big for my britches after a couple pitchers.

Speaking of, what kind of power has the Mule's turbo set-up made now?

Over 1,000hp with the TT setup. I had a picture of the dyno sheet from the 2004 power tour but its at home. I know there are members here that know right away the exact amount of HP the Mule pulls now.

Dyno sheet

you guys are acting like a bunch of sissy boys, need i remind you that camaro's hit the 200 mile per hour mark on a regular basis. it's all about the driver and practice.
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Just a LITTLE bit different body than a street car, wouldn't you say??!!!!!!!!!! Lets see you drive that front end height down a normal street, and we won't even go into the wings!

Jody

Great, just great. "Hey everyone...Look at the dumbass from Texas calling out the 1000hp Mule!!"

They have this foamy stuff down here that, when consumed in great quantities, makes the consumer truly believe he is 10-foot tall and bulletproof.

Does that report say "60psi" ? That can't be right. Maybe 20, right?

come on jody this is nmca not pro-mod, the body is pretty near the same and musi donesn't run a wing( maybe a small one) and besides you follow drag racing right, i know you have seen some shoe boxes run near 200 or plus as long as the road is straight and flat i don't see why not. i say it just depends on how much money a person has to invest, safety, balls and brains are extra :rolleyes:












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700 foot pounds at 3900? Thats insane! No wonder it pulls like a crotch rocket! :hail:

WOO HOO!!!! I'm not alone in the corner anymore!!! :willy:

I remember a great picture of the Thrasher in PHR a few years back. When they did One Lap, Mark ran the car on the oval at Michigan. I don't remember the speed, but it sure as heck was NOT 200mph. The car looked like it was doing a wheelie.

You wanna run that puppie up , you'll need a big, strong front spoiler, and an adjustable rake rear spoiler is advisable for tuning. It can all be done bolt-on.
Dirk Van Zuuk has built a nice example. It might be a bit "small" for 200mph, but then again, he will never reach that speed. It won't fold over like the factory part. A rear spoiler is in the works.
/Steevo

I too remember that very well. I emailed Mark about that back in the day. I think he said he was doing close to 170, and that was about top speed for that car.

Steve, that front spoiler looks cool. :thumbsup:

I'll think about it!!!!!!!:D Actually, what I'm saying is that I do not think a standard bodied 69 Camaro can be driven to 200 MPH without some sort of mods to keep the car on the ground. Like mentioned above, the Thrasher was lifting a LOT at speeds well below 200 MPH. So balls or not, you're not going to make it in one piece.

Any drag car I've seen go that fast has a super low front end, large rake, usually a large rear spoiler. There is a reason for this and being that you're asking these guys with their street cars to go that fast I'm thinking they'll need to incorporate something to give them a good chance of doing so safely. They don't have the huge rake, super-low front end, or big wings.

There will be a 200 mph street driven 69 Camaro, guarantee it. But not until they get some aero mods done.

Jody

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I've been in some nice 1st. gen. camaros but there ain't none I would be comfortable at 200 mph in, period. Just picturing the Nextel guys holding on to a vibrating shaky steering wheel in the corners is enough for me to have no part of 200mph. in any 69 Camaro. Maybe Charley's Benz!! :thumbsup: