With the talk of going 200mph...
 

This video really shows how fast that really is. I also have to wonder how fast the car was actually going. The speedo says 191mph, but I'd be willing to bet it's not going quite that fast. I'd have to see speed readout from a GPS or radar.

http://www.4get2.com/2006/12/lambo_m...o_190_mph.html

Damn! Things sounds like a Jet after it goes by; that is moving.

I agree! Looks more like 175 or around there!

I must be getting old
 

No helment? Dudes standing next to the road at the finish? Ahh to be young, dumb and full of c##. Funny how having kids and little bit of age changes things.

Besides that part. He was definitely hauling the mail. I would do it with full on saftey gear (IE 200 mph cage, fire supression system, etc)

You guys crack me up!

As if it would be possible, to judge within 15 MPH...whether he's doing 175, or doing 191, by watching bushes and the white lines whipping by, in this little video...

I believe he was most likely doing the claimed 191. The car can certainly do it. If he was out to tell lies, he'd probably be claiming the big 200.

Too fast for me, in a car with no safety equipment. If he lost a tire, he'd most likely roll and be dead.

I should amend that last sentence... too fast for me, period...:D

I'm not sure I would be doing that without a helmet and safety gear. That thing goes out of control with those people there and it would be a massacre.

And how long did it take?
 

Seemed like it took him forever to get from 160 to 190mph. What did it take like two miles too.

You guys are not too old. I'm in my 30s and I thought those nuts were too close to the road. :_paranoid

Mal

200mph in Germany
 

Back when I was younger and dumber I did 200mph according to the speedo in my supercharged 93 Cobra with a full Steeda road race suspension under it.
The difference between 150mph and every 10mph increment from there up definately doubles the pucker factor!! I only did it once on the autobahns over there but would regularly roll at 150mph with the AC on the cruise control set and the stereo blastin! (c:]
V/R,
Ty

[QUOTE=4OfaKind]Seemed like it took him forever to get from 160 to 190mph. What did it take like two miles too.

You guys are not too old. I'm in my 30s and I thought those nuts were too close to the road. :_paranoid

I guess they never saw the video of "Driving with Allah" in the off topic section ..........

cheezer

DAMN IT SEEMED LIKE IT TOOK FOREVER TO GET THERE . HE USED UP ALOT OF ROAD TO DO IT. I WOULD NEVER TRIED ANYTHING LIKE THAT ON OPEN PUBLIC ROADS. ON THE TRACK I HAVE GONE AS FAST AS 217MPH IN A PRO-MOD DRAG CAR. AND THINGS GO BY ALOT FASTER THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE AT THOSE SPEEDS. THERE JUST WOULD BE NO TIME TO CORRECT FOR ANYTHING THAT MAY GET IN THE WAY. :wow:

At least at 200mph if you crashed you wouldn't feel anything!!!

Car sounds killer.

Before deploying to Iraq, my best friend rented a Murcielago for 4 days. We did one high-speed blast on the Autobahn at about 3 am. He drove and I watched the speedo. We touched 330 KPH (205 mph) according to the speedo. Definitely dumb, but we rationalized that it was no more dangerous (and a lot more fun) than the year we were getting ready to spend in combat. I would never want to do that again in a road car.

The rest of the time we spent tooling around on twisty back roads or at the club picking up girls. :unibrow:

This is 200mph! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzNAYnQblRA

The 2jz will decimate all.... :rofl:

Tommy's car is 3500+lbs, and makes in the neighborhood of 1200rwhp. He didn't go WOT until 4th gear and it was right inbetween the 1/4 and 1/2 mile mark. The only reason is he didn't want the motor at WOT for the whole mile, and the Supra wouldn't have much traction under 100mph anyway with that much power.

Gosh, I can't even imagine the carnage...especially without any safety equipment...

You would have better chance jumping out of a airplane at 30,000 ft without a chute....at least you would only be going around 120mph

i destoryed my pro mod doing 200,and you dont really feel a thing it happens so fast,you cant do anything.

but if the driver wouldn't have kept try to save it,it wouldn't have crashed but i'm aracer,and aint lift'n till the lights or it crashed

That looks and sounds about right.... well.... within 2-3% anyway.

Some years back at the SSC there were two Ferrari Tesa's that broke the 190mph barrier in stock form with much less power. Unfortunately, Larry Bartschi delam'ed a left front at around 180mph and subsequently, found out just how well the stock seatbelts didnt work.... his wife Jean was thrown some 80+ meters from the car and was killed instantly. It hit home real hard, but the race went on.

In my experience, 175mph is right about where everything changes. Your field of view narrows from the blur and the loss of your pheripheral vision makes things slow down, per-say, but you dont automatically perceive the loss. I dunno.... its hard to explain, but the sounds and visual effects from 175 and on is surreal. You also need to slow your own reactions down a tad as well.... as over corrections are your worst nightmare.

During my stint at Guldstrand, we certified every GS-80 chassis before it went to the client. We used to drive down to the west end of the 90 freeway while JJ (from TRACO) and Moody (of Holman and Moody) would sit on their crotchrockets on the side of the freeway with the RADAR and tag us as we went by. It never really bothered me and I never really thought much of it. We were always in full gear and had plenty of time in the seat at 'speed' on the tracks and lakes of SoCal and it just didnt sink in to any one of us.... until one day.... we got back to the shop and JJ dropped the gun into my lap. 193mph. That was enough for me on a public thoroughfare. After that.... it was done on private property.

Have you ever tried to dodge small animals on the open range highways of Nevada ?? Its pretty.... scarry to say the least. It doesnt really sit on your mind until you see the front end of a chassis that hit a 3 pound 6inch tall little bunny at speed.... and the $4k worth of damage it created.

On a side note, there is a little facet of F-body (and crotchrocket) clowns here in Vegas that have some pretty interesting videos of open road stuff here locally (lvfbody.com). I still shake my head looking at an "un prepared" chassis with some cat that isnt wearing full gear and has probably ZERO experience.... or has about ZERO time at speeds sustained over 150mph.

Anyway.... balls-ie video. I guess they always miss the little bunnies ?? :faint:

200 mph is fast. I have buddies that go over 180 mph in the quarter mile! From a standing stop in less then 8 seconds they are going over 180 mph. With a gear change they could do 200 in about 9-10 seconds from a standing stop.
I would have to say the more power you have, the safer it gets. You spend far less time at dangerous speeds. For instance. My Chevelle will do say 150 mph in about 10 seconds if I want. My Audi A6 took me over a mile to hit 130 mph. To me this was much more dangerous. I was traveling very fast for a very long time.

I saw a video of a new vette that went 200 mph, I think it took him about 3 miles, most of the time was spent at speeds over 150 mph.

All I am pointing out is that I feel it is much safer to go 200 mph is a VERY powerful car rather then a low powered car that could potentially take up to 10 times longer to get there.

Make sense? I typed this very quickly!! About 200 mph!

I hate to say it, but I'm dumb enough to try it. I giggle at 130. I find it enjoyable. And I know the difference is enormous, but so is the difference between 100 and 120. Hell, I know people who say they aren't afraid of speed, yet won't do over 90. They think 75 is fast. I've gone a speed limited 135 and I got bored. I went 130+ in my own Camaro, but the speedo only went to 130 and I know I was going faster. Did that with a broken shock, too. Oh yeah, and 110mph rate tires. So, yeah, us dumbasses are out there. I'd love to try and go faster.

I topped out my GSXR750 at 145 on the Great Highway in San Francisco and that was fast to me. I haven't been on anything faster since. My Harley "ONLY" goes up to 110 before it tops out. Like I need to go any faster on that. At a certain point it felt as if I was at a standstill while everything else rushed backwards and all of a sudden I was at the end of the run with a Honda about to cut me off. Very stupid on my part to try that on a public road but at 3am you don't expect anyone to be around. I wouldn't mind breaking 200 at Bonneville in my Malibu if that were ever possible.

I would rather go from 0-100 in 4 seconds than go 200 mph. I like that torque rush, I know I'm old but you can't pick your parents.

I love the acceleration rush too!! It is awesome.

204 did not feel bad to me, I really liked it. On the next lap the car went 205 and it seemed way faster and scary, but that may have been from the steering shaft stripping on the second run!!

Kurt

just out of morbid curiosity... how what would it take to go 200 mph (actually i think that 300 Kph would be enough ..191mph i think) in my BU? im installing an 01, ls1 and a pair of turbos.. but im not sure that an 4l60e can be built to handle more than 650 Hp... i have a full manual AOD/gm, hybrid that should take 900 ponies no problem, but it doesnt have lockup..

what kind of tranny/rearend would it take??

You will have to have a T56 and about 1000 hp to do it in 1 mile from a standing stop.

so it can't be done any other way??? mmmmm........ :rofl:

and different 5/6 gears, plus a way to keep the car on the ground (highly overstated, but a major key to the puzzle). Having the hp does not mean you can do it.

Jody

Know a better combo with a G-machine??

Comparing hitting 175 or above on a bike is hardly comparable to trying it with your car. Most sport bikes are so overdesigned and capable of satisfying the most experienced rider right out of the box. Maybe a switch to a favorite tire is needed. Look at any new sport bike and the technology is incredible. This all makes hitting those speeds somewhat safe as the machine is more than capable of handling the speed. That does not take into account the rider.


You have a nice car but you have to be kidding. Zero aerodynamic corrections, Heavy street rims, OEM brakes, stock brake system, no chassis changes, hood pins? etc, etc, etc.

The best part is you are trying to find possibly a used T56 where you have no idea of what it's internals hide. So you get this untested deal up to speed and something goes wrong, what then?? Do you have a cage? suit? helmet?


I say go all the way. Take your shirt off, throw on some shorts and flip flops. Buy yourself a Starbucks to hold while attaining the speed. If this isn't distracting enough hold a camera with a live feed so we can all watch it.


I think you can do it and see no reason wht not to try it.

Mmm, It took that Lambo about 57 seconds, or nearly 30 seconds longer to reach 190 than my Ultima GTR did, scroll down to the second chart.
http://www.sscc.us/results-06-sscc.htm#z2z

Damn... I need a ride like I need a heroin addict needs another hit.

Can't make heads or tails of this post?? Who's car and bike are you refering to?:question:

Here is a fairly pathetic vette 190 mph video:

http://www.motortrend.com/av/112_060...tte_z06_video/


This car did 200 mph in the standing mile:

http://www.ls1speed.com/movies/intmd8_199.wmv
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50...0MPHCAMARO.jpg

This car did about 190 mph with a flipped blower belt!(Standing mile)
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50.../Stevescar.jpg

It does not seem to take much to do a 1 mile blast!! :unibrow: :D

A 4 point roll bar is needed if car is attempting to hit 190+ mph

I know with my car, with a t56 the 5th gear ratio will be perfect for a 200 mph goal. That is why I say a t56 would be a good choice. Both cars above have a t56.

last i checked most g machines do not go 200 mph buddy, i think you need to go 155 first, then worry about 175, then maybe 200 :hail:

Why go 155 first?? :D

Probably meant that as a starting point, since you have not gone that fast in your car yet. I imagine he's speaking of your 155 mph on-ramp blasts which later were found to be 20-25 slower than you thought due to converter slippage.

Jody

Oh. Sounded more to me like he was doubting my car would even go that fast. :)

I completely agree.

At the LSR events, once the chassis you plan on driving passes tech... you are required to do incrimental runs, each in succession of speed. Not only for chassis sorting, but for the driver to get seat time and the associated experience that goes along with that.

I also second Jodys comment of:

The shear mechanics and aero considerations are really what give you the permission to accomplish such speed.

And in somewhat agreement with Stewart... with the exception of doing 100-0 in 4 seconds. Negative G is just as impressive to me...

Has your car been 200 mph?