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t/a-speed 10-30-2007 04:33 AM

Swapping to EFI without switching cams
 
I'm having a hard time putting something together that will work with the below cam. I've searched several sites but can't get a clear answer as to how flexible each system will be for cam tuning.
My Options:
Stealthram with stock TPI ECM and wiring harness.

Full stealthram package from Summit.

Edelbrock pro-flo EFI.

Holley 950 system.

F.I.R.S.T. system (but was told the cam was too big for the ECM).

I want reliability and still have the performance from my 69 camaro.
It has a 355 with a 4 speed muncie and 410 gears.
Edelbrock RPM Heads, cam(234/244 @.50 .488/.510 on a 112), and Intake.

If I can get something put together then I can think about adding a six speed.

I'm not racing it, I just want to be able to start it, drive it and be able to drive it 400 miles without something going wrong.
Thanks for looking..

camcojb 11-02-2007 11:50 PM

I think you have some mis-printed numbers on the duration, but I think I know which one you're talking about. That is not a large cam and should not cause any issues with a system that can be tuned. If the FIRST system can't tune that then it is either not tuneable or severely limited and should be avoided.

Jody

t/a-speed 11-03-2007 09:56 AM

Your so right about the specs, I edited the post to reflect what I think are the right numbers.

I emailed the FIRST people and they use a 730 ecm but the highest duration their people will tune for is 220. I can go my own route and either have it tuned or try it myself.

Since the car is show with some go, I think I can get away with having someone else burn a prom. There seem to be some good companies out there for this.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...007aMedium.jpg

camcojb 11-03-2007 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t/a-speed
Your so right about the specs, I edited the post to reflect what I think are the right numbers.

I emailed the FIRST people and they use a 730 ecm but the highest duration their people will tune for is 220. I can go my own route and either have it tuned or try it myself.

Since the car is show with some go, I think I can get away with having someone else burn a prom. There seem to be some good companies out there for this.

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w...007aMedium.jpg


I would avoid any efi system that cannot tune beyond a 220 @.050 duration cam. Basically they are saying we're using a stock computer (which is fine) but have no way to tune it. The advantage of efi is in the ability to tune it; any of the other systems you mentioned could tune that combo easily, as well as FAST, BigStuff3, Accel, or simply a stock GM computer and tuning program like HP Tuners or EFI Live.

Jody

t/a-speed 11-03-2007 01:55 PM

Thanks for the reply,
I was under the impression that the 730 ecm was a GM unit.
Meaning, I could have a custom prom made or buy my own equipment to burn proms.

camcojb 11-03-2007 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t/a-speed
Thanks for the reply,
I was under the impression that the 730 ecm was a GM unit.
Meaning, I could have a custom prom made or buy my own equipment to burn proms.


nothing wrong with it if it's tuneable. I started in EFI with a prom-burner and tuning software. I do prefer the systems that tune via a laptop and allow faster changes vs the burning prom deal, but they both work.

Jody

t/a-speed 11-05-2007 08:29 PM

I think the RPM range for the FIRST might fall a little short of what I can use.

The stealth looks good too but I'll have to save for a year to pay for it.

Jody, Nice cars man, just fantastic.

camcojb 11-05-2007 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t/a-speed
I think the RPM range for the FIRST might fall a little short of what I can use.

The stealth looks good too but I'll have to save for a year to pay for it.

Jody, Nice cars man, just fantastic.

thanks, I appreciate it. Let me know if I can help.

Jody


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