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Peter 07-02-2005 01:36 PM

Help vibrations
 
I am having a big problem with vibrations, I think it comes from the driveshaft or something in this area. I have tried the following.
Pinion angel set up and down are now at front 2 degree down, rear axel 2.5 degree down and driveshaft 1 degree down rear.
The driveshaft has been fully balanced and is straight and with new u-joint. I have tried two different complete rearaksel carrier.
The vibration is coming at around 4000 RPM in high gear (TH700 with lock up) and getting worse when I goes higher in RPM. The rear is 3,89-1. and the car is a 69 Camaro take a look at http://www.pro-touring.dk

Thanks Peter
:(

sinned 07-02-2005 05:31 PM

You have already discovered your problem....the pinion and powertrain cannot both angle down. If the powertrain is set to 2.5* down than the pinion has to be at least 2* up. That will take care of your condition.

BTW, see this thread...we just had this discussion a week ago.

Peter 07-03-2005 04:12 AM

Hi Denny

Thanks for your answer, but there are somthing that I dont understand, I have bought a book How to build & modify GM Pro-touring Street machines. In this book there are pictures and explanation these word are from this book
Engine and transmission tilted 3 degrees down, pinion angel is equal to transmission angel 3 degrees down. Notice the pinion and transmission angel are both down.
Please explain because now I am confused!

Thanks, Peter
:_paranoid

907rs 07-03-2005 10:27 AM

Peter, the angle of the pinion vs. the angle of the trans output shaft should be equal, but opposite; meaning they both have the same angle, but the pinion is pointed up and the output shaft is pointed down.

sinned 07-03-2005 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter
Hi Denny

Thanks for your answer, but there are somthing that I dont understand, I have bought a book How to build & modify GM Pro-touring Street machines. In this book there are pictures and explanation these word are from this book
Engine and transmission tilted 3 degrees down, pinion angel is equal to transmission angel 3 degrees down. Notice the pinion and transmission angel are both down.
Please explain because now I am confused!

Thanks, Peter
:_paranoid

Don't be confused Peter, if you saw in print that the pinion and trans should both point down it was obviously a typo. I have spoken with Tony several times, he is a pretty bright guy. He is currently working a new "version" of the book to correct some typos from publishing.

Reset your pinion to point up a few degress and you vibration will go away.

Peter 07-03-2005 01:05 PM

Hi there,

Now I am getting it, I will try to put wedges between my rear end the spring to get the angel up.
I will be back soon with the result.

Thanks for the advice.

Peter.
;)

Peter 07-04-2005 09:46 AM

I have now put my pinion angle to the following specifications: Trans output 2 degrees down, drive shaft 1 degree up, and rear end 2 degrees up. In this way I will have 3 degrees working angle front and 3 degrees working angle back and they are opposite.
But…….. The vibrations are still there. I feel no difference it is still like the vibrations is coming from the drive shaft or the u-joint.
Any other suggestions to this problem, I will do anything to get these vibrations away.

Peter
:willy: :thmbsdwn:

Derek69SS 07-04-2005 09:58 AM

You sure it's not a tire out of balance?

sinned 07-04-2005 10:30 AM

Actually your working angles are 1* at each end of the shaft, driveline angles look good. If you still have a vibration I would look at u-joints themselves (even if they feel good) or wheel/tire problem(don't take it to Wal-mart, you need to find a "good" tire center).

Peter 07-07-2005 02:59 PM

Yes!!!!!! Now the problem is solved, after I got the angle right and the vibrations still was there I try replacing the bearing in the extensions housing and the front u-joint this solved the problem.
So the wrong drive shaft angle must have destroyed the bearing and the front U-joint.
Thanks for the help and god explanations, if any of you guys ever come to Denmark, Europe then come and visit me for a cold beer.

Thanks Peter
:thumbsup:


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