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TravisLee 04-01-2009 11:19 AM

what do you think of this brake kit?
 
Hi, my name is Travis and I am working on my first dream car. I just got a 1968 big block SS camaro. Im looking to go the pro-touring route and Im starting witht the suspension and steering. I already have the tubular control arms and stock replacement steering components. And will be going with DSE for the springs, shocks, and subframe connectors.

Now its time for brakes and I have been looking at these kits for a while.
http://www.performanceonline.com/sto...at=1026&page=1 for the front and

http://www.performanceonline.com/sto...cat=480&page=1 for the rear with this master cylinder http://www.performanceonline.com/sto...92&cat=0&page=

also I will be doing stainless hardlines and braided brake lines.

What do you think of this kit? Will it all work together well?

Thank you for all your time and I hope to add pictures soon

Payton King 04-01-2009 02:05 PM

It all really depends on the size of rims
 
and how much clearance you have. Personally I would look over to the left and click on Kore3 since you are looking at kits using OEM stuff. His name escapes me right now, but the posts that I have seen by him he knows his stuff and seems like a nice guy.

I like my Wilwood stuff but it is not cheap and Frank at Prodigy is the man on that...

Apogee 04-02-2009 08:43 AM

Just my opinion, and I'll readily admit that I'm biased :D , but the primary reason to run C4 front brakes is because you can't fit C5 or C6 brakes. If you can fit C5/C6 brakes, there are a lot of benefits to doing so including stiffer calipers, bigger pads, pin-guided design (versus pad-guided), and thicker 32mm rotors (versus 28mm). If a standard C5/C6 kit won't fit inside your wheels of choice, then you might consider giving Noel at Touring Classics a call as he sells a C5 kit for the 1st gens that uses the deeper offset (but also narrower) C4 HD 13" rotor. I would go that route long before the C4 kit.

The POL kit that you linked to shows spindles...do you need spindles? It also shows hubs...do you need hubs? All things to consider if you're trying to do big-brakes on a budget since odds are that the spindles you have are serviceable, as could be the hubs with a little work if you've got a drum/drum car. If you have a disc/drum car, then you will need hubs, but there are better alternatives than the cast iron OE replacements I've seen around (some of the imports are highly questionable with respect to quality).

As for the master cylinder that you linked to, the 1" bore is going to be marginal with the C4 front calipers (bore is too large), and admittedly, I'm not a very big fan of fixed "GM spec" proportioning valves. It doesn't make sense to put a stock type proportioning valve on a vehicle with nothing stock on it. You're lowering the car's center of gravity, adding performance suspension upgrades, different (hopefully better) tires, etc...an adjustable rear proportioning valve should allow you to tune the rear brakes so that you're getting optimal performance from them.

Tobin
KORE3

VP23271 04-02-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 205375)
Personally I would look over to the left and click on Kore3 since you are looking at kits using OEM stuff. His name escapes me right now, but the posts that I have seen by him he knows his stuff and seems like a nice guy.

I like my Wilwood stuff but it is not cheap and Frank at Prodigy is the man on that...

If you want to go with GM OEM or maybe even late model Corvette, I agree with Payton. Call Kore3

If you want to go with Wilwood, Give Frank a call at Prodigy Customs.

Keep in mind that it's not just about price. Because if you have questions after you get your brakes in the mail, these 2 shops will walk you thru the setup. :thumbsup:

Payton King 04-02-2009 09:13 AM

Thanks for jumping in here Tobin
 
Not only is my eyesight going with age, so is my memory.

TravisLee 04-02-2009 11:38 AM

My car right now is a disc/drum car so I would need hubs. I was planning on replacing the spindles because I was replacing everything else with the suspension and steering.

I thank everyone for their responses and ideas but I like this kit and it fits in my budget. You make a good point with the master cylinder. I will switch to this one that is adjustable and cleaner looking http://www.classicperform.com/NewPro...V-1/MCPV-1.htm

I am running 18" Foose Legend wheels with Nitto tires and tubular control arms with DSE springs and Koni shocks front and rear. I am just looking for a brake system that will work for weekend cruising and be safe enough for an emergency stop.

Thanks again everyone

Travis

7TSS 04-02-2009 12:42 PM

I suggest you give Tobin a call since he can get you much better brakes for a few bucks more. Here's an example for $21 more for the fronts:

http://www.kore3.com/proddetail.php?prod=10103-01

Plus his customer service before and after purchase is excellent. JMO.

Payton King 04-02-2009 02:55 PM

I agree
 
but it is your call. If your spindles are fine you do not need a new set. The ones that you have now are much better than what they are going to sell you in their kit.

Give Tobin a call and give him a shot, it won't cost you anything. You can still say no

markss28 04-02-2009 03:03 PM

I have Kore 3 brakes on my 73 camaro and couldnt be happier. Stop great and looks sweat to boot.

Apogee 04-02-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payton King (Post 205517)
Not only is my eyesight going with age, so is my memory.

No worries...we can't all become richer and better looking as we get older (present company excluded of course :P). Thanks for the kind words and coninued business. You guys rock. :thumbsup:

Here's the link from a previous thread on Pro-Touring.com...Wilwood C3 (JL8) calipers were discussed as well as some other options.

Travis, good luck with whichever kit you choose to buy. We're available if you have any specific questions regarding our kits or would like to discuss your application in general.

Tobin
KORE3


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