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69MyWay 03-02-2010 01:37 PM

1st gen bolt in roll bar - five point harness
 
Hey guys,

I'm looking for a bolt in bar/harness system for my 69 Camaro that will allow a five point harness AND I can still have a back seat passenger.

What are my options?

69MyWay 03-03-2010 09:00 AM

hey guys...if my goal is to have a solid secured 5 point harness and roll over protection - while not attempting to pass tech for NHRA... Right now the car has lap belts. My wife has input in the process and has her foot down on any sort of "cage" that makes enter/exit and back seat use a problem.


What do you think about getting one of these in a FOUR point version and the bolt in plates.

http://www.jegs.com/instructions/555/rollcage.pdf


I could cut to fit - tack weld - then take to a pro...but build this so that the shoulder bar slides up and down kind of like the ride tech - but not so intrusive or expensive.

Thoughts?

Vegas69 03-03-2010 09:04 AM

Back seat and roll bar don't belong in the same sentence. Take your pick, family mobile or race car......

69MyWay 03-03-2010 09:19 AM

Here is a pic from a Foose Camaro - They advertise as having a 4 pt cage - and 5 point harness.

How does this one work?

http://img.worldcarfans.com/2006/12/...02.Mini10L.jpg

69MyWay 03-03-2010 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 272760)
Back seat and roll bar don't belong in the same sentence. Take your pick, family mobile or race car......

Where's the fun in that?

Vegas69 03-03-2010 09:25 AM

Just speaking from experience. Look at that photo you posted. Your passengers head is going to be right next to the rear down bar. These back seats are tiny. I had the same thoughts as you in the fabrication stage. Once the 4 point roll bar was installed I knew nobody would EVER ride back there. It's just to dangerous. Have you considered a modern 3 point set up like Morris classics instead?

69MyWay 03-03-2010 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 272764)
Just speaking from experience. Look at that photo you posted. Your passengers head is going to be right next to the rear down bar. These back seats are tiny. I had the same thoughts as you in the fabrication stage. Once the 4 point roll bar was installed I knew nobody would EVER ride back there. It's just to dangerous.

Good point. Still no fun in that :rofl:

I hadn't thought about the head issues for side impact...etc. for a back seat person. What you are saying is this bar (even if the shoulder one was moveable) would be right where you head needs to be just to sit in the rear.

I know Detroit Speed built a bar for Kyle Bush - that went from B pillar to B pillar and could be removed (one - off) to hold the shoulder harness.

I called them - since it was a one off - not much else can be taken from that vs. just going in the shop and fabricating.

Vegas69 03-03-2010 09:39 AM

That's a good idea, except your not supposed to have a 4-5 point harness without a roll bar. In a roll over you can't move. Ultimately it's up to you. I would never put any type of roll bar in a car meant for the family. They become two seaters once that roll bar goes in the car. You can go pretty damn fast with a 3 point seat belt. Look at the ZR1. I've autocrossed at a very competitive pace and road raced once and didn't feel they were a neccessity. They would be nice in a road race at the highest levels with these cars.You need a good set of supportive seats however.

69MyWay 03-03-2010 09:45 AM

Okay - so scrap that - how about this:

http://www.rickscamaros.com/product....ts-_-SB-69-_-X


I have a set of 1985 Corvette seats in this car - very supportive.

Vegas69 03-03-2010 09:48 AM

That's your best option in my opinion for a usable back seat and modern front seat belt safety.


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