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Targa Camaro update
Well at least one person asked for it, (70rs), so here goes with the update to the Targa Camaro. After waiting for many stars to align, the project is a go for this year. The initial post canbe found here:
https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=24178 Info on the race can be found here : http://www.targanewfoundland.com/ And if you watch this short teaser, you will understand why a roll cage is important at this type of event : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGxizok9DLI I also got a lot of inspiration from this car and I wish I had the budget to have the same level of fit and finish : http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...upe/index.html When we last left off, we were finishing up the roll cage. Here is how the sidebars turned out. we used a square tube at the bottom because it was a perfect fit. he side bars may seem low, but they protect the pelvis area. Very important! http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...finished-1.jpg There are no subframe connectors as we feel that they are unnecessary at this point. The subframe bushings are Global West stock height solid aluminum. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...finished-1.jpg This is what can happen when your welder has a bad day. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...ndshield-1.jpg And the final result : http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...ge-paint-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...paintfar-1.jpg cheezer |
Dash modifications for roll cage
Here are some of the modifications we did to keep the cage away from the driver. We had to cut the dash, build the cage, and then repair the dash where it had been cut. Just posting the pictures for anyone inerested. Please feel free to comment as I am always willing to learn from members on this forum.
http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...aro006-1-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...prebondo-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...lddetail-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...amaro018-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...amaro012-2.jpg In this picture you can see the paint damage that was done to the A-pillar by a young welder who did not heed the warnings of his wise elders! http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...ashbondo-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...amaro065-1.jpg I had tried to keep the car as street as possible, and I have followed the recent debates of what constitutes a "street" car. It will have interior door panels, even though they pose a fire risk for a race car. But I will be forced to use race type switches on the trans tunnel because you cannot reach the dash when you are strapped in tight in the harness. cheezer |
Looks like you are making good progress Mark. Thanks for taking the time to post all of this. I will be following along. Good luck in the race itself and with the rest of the build.:thumbsup:
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Rear suspension
Here is where the build gets slightly unique. When I first started this project back in 2005, the rules of the race dictated that the rear "differential" be of "OES" (Original Equipment Specification). At that time, the Lateral Dynamics 3 link was the hot set up, but only came with a Ford 9" housing. I called Mark at LD and explained my problem. He came up with a 12-bolt solution my problem. Even though the torque arm set up was only available in 1982, which is out of my class, I was going to try and get it in by invoking the rule that allows any attachment point in the rear suspension.
This is the only LD 3 link with a 12 bolt in existence to my knowledge. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...amaro020-2.jpg All that was rendered moot when the rules were revised for 2009. Under the new rules, a 9 inch Ford would be allowed. In the meantime, I will try to get this thing working, even though there is an interference problem with the diff cover. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...aro014-1-1.jpg I have ordered a Moser cover and we will try and mill it to fit. Because the whole suspension has to come down to take the diff cover off, a way of draining and filling the diff is a MUST. We also had problems with some of the threads in at the attachement points. After initially blaming a newly hired mechanic, we found we had problems with a second one, even after having proerly chased it first. Bt at this level of fabrication, small bumps in the road are to be expected. We redrilled the threads, put in some high strength, and high dollar ($10 each!) bolts and carried on. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...ion-bolt-1.jpg That's all for now, cheezer |
Cool Project
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Thanks. I did not realize how much work it is to organize (resize, post, find file number conflicts, etc.) all these photos in a coherent fashion. I have even MORE respect for guys like Mark Stielow and others who take the time to post so many pictures and respond to so many questions. cheezer |
More rear suspension
Here are a few moreshots of the rear suspension.
This shows a mock up with the remote reservoir Penske shocks. The springs are for mock up only. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...ckupside-1.jpg This is the Strange Engineering housing. It is part #1106A (?) for putting a 12 bolt into a third generation F-body, with torque arm rear suspension. You can see the bracket that LD made to anchor the center link. Since this is basically a prototype, there is some question as to the clearance between the diff cover and the watts linkage. That is why it was supplied with a cheap chrome cover. Also, where the bracket is attached to the upper part of the rear cover, it is shimmed with washers, for the reasons stated above. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...amaro069-1.jpg We have mocked it up, but until the car is on the ground, sitting on it's own weight, with the links adjusted properly, we cannot know for SURE that everything will clear. Watching the video of the Bad Penny suspension sure helped a lot! It is amazing what you can see when you stand on the shoulders of giants .... Our solution is to take a Moser diff cover, and machine the upper part to fit in the bracket. The Moser cover seems to be about an inch deeper than the current chrome pan, so it will be a tight fit. But like I said earlier, we MUST have a way of draining and filling the differential oil, without having to drop the rear suspension. And we don't want to drill and tap the flimsy chrome thing either. cheezer |
Spare tire and interior
According to the rules of this rally, each car must carry a spare tire. Space savers are allowed, but if anyone knows of some that will clear my brake calipers, please let me know.
Most participants don't carry a spare, and the rule is not enforced. But to be fully prepared for anything, including strict rules interpretation, we have devised a method to carry a spare tire, despite the full roll cage. The solution is not that elegant, and it will only be used as a last resort. We have a flat panel that bolts in for normal street driving. The other option would be like in the remake of "Thomas Crown Affair" : strapped to a baggage rack on the trunk. May interfere with airflow over the rear spoiler though. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...aro016-2-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...o018-2-1-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...amaro019-2.jpg Don't forget, we will be riding pretty high since we are racing on some pretty bad public roads. I pray we don't need to use this. It can handle at least a 255-18 tire. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...gingdown-1.jpg As far as the interior goes, it will be pretty straightforward. We will be using both of the Covan dash inserts available for the 1968 models. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...nteddash-1.jpg http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...shmockup-1.jpg We are using an AAW Highway 22 kit as a base. We are adding some cool things like a flow switch to monitor if we lose a belt, as well as an oil pressure idiot light set at aound 30lbs. or so to monitor oil pressure loss in corners. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...fitment1-1.jpg I was worried about not having enough places for gauges, but when I decided to go with the Vintage Air Gen II heater, it freed up the center console for 4 gauges. I hope this heater will do the job in the rain. The race takes place in Newfoundland in September. The tail end of hurricanes can be wandering by at that time of year, and the race is rain or shine. Hopefully this, along with the DSE wiper motor kit, will be fully tested this summer on the street. I realize that a full A/C system would represent the best option for ventilation, but I don't want to put it on a race car, especially for the weight. http://i974.photobucket.com/albums/a...firewall-1.jpg Please tell me if there are too many pictures. cheezer |
Too many pictures?? Uh no. Never. Keep them coming please.:yes:
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