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Jack Maurer 04-08-2010 02:49 PM

Mustang FR500S at Sears Point
 
Link below to a fun video shot at Sears Point....turn up the volume and enjoy


http://www.vholdr.com/node/79337

byndbad914 04-08-2010 03:12 PM

would be good without the Stones - no better music than a V8 on the track IMO and it would be nice to hear the car more :)

That said, it is always fun having a car with left foot drive-ability and it always seems to push the guy in front of you enough to make a mistake - you know he was hell bent to not get passed when he overcooked the turn :unibrow:

Jack Maurer 04-08-2010 03:49 PM

Another video without the sound
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by byndbad914 (Post 280977)
would be good without the Stones - no better music than a V8 on the track IMO and it would be nice to hear the car more :)

That said, it is always fun having a car with left foot drive-ability and it always seems to push the guy in front of you enough to make a mistake - you know he was hell bent to not get passed when he overcooked the turn :unibrow:

http://www.vholdr.com/node/79389

Neil B 04-08-2010 06:24 PM

Sears is, hands down, my favorite track. Your video brings back good memories. Looks like you're getting around there pretty good running 55's. Your car looks strong coming out of the carousel and through the esses. Nothing quite like Turn 10 to get your attention. Have fun!

byndbad914 04-08-2010 06:33 PM

yeah, better, can hear when you are on or off the throttle. Take this as a piece of advice, not necessarily armchair quarterbacking: on the two 180 deg turns you are leaving a lot on the table by turning in way too soon. You want to stay out and do a later apex on those so you can shoot into the stretches that follow. I can hear the car is way off throttle when you go thru those without the music and visually I could see before that it was too inside and early.

Here is a vid I know of a guy that runs it and you can see the line I am talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlA3fyApSps

Have you ran with an instructor? It can be a big help if you are not sure of a good line. You are pretty smooth at the wheel which is hard for many to do so you have that in your favor, but you are leaving a second or two just in those two turns I suspect.

fleet 04-08-2010 08:28 PM

Enjoyed the vid; that cammer sounded nice Jack.

Neil B 04-09-2010 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by byndbad914 (Post 281026)
yeah, better, can hear when you are on or off the throttle. Take this as a piece of advice, not necessarily armchair quarterbacking: on the two 180 deg turns you are leaving a lot on the table by turning in way too soon. You want to stay out and do a later apex on those so you can shoot into the stretches that follow.

There is not a single proper line through Turn 11. Some cars are faster double-apexing that corner. The late apex that the 914 is doing can be good for qualifying, but will almost guarantee loss of position in a race.

ZVT 04-09-2010 09:08 PM

Lovin it Jack thats one bad ass stang...When you gonna post up the camaro build thread?

camcojb 04-09-2010 10:19 PM

hey Jack, welcome to the site! Great car, but I think you're gonna need to get your new 69 Camaro out on the track when it's done..................... :unibrow:

Jody

byndbad914 04-09-2010 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil B (Post 281090)
There is not a single proper line through Turn 11. Some cars are faster double-apexing that corner. The late apex that the 914 is doing can be good for qualifying, but will almost guarantee loss of position in a race.

Racing and tracking are two different things. This is clearly tracking. When I go out and track a car I take the smoothest, momentum line. When I used to W2W it was about holding position, sure, so staying inside and blocking can work, or shooting down low to late pass can work, assuming of course you don't lose it back coming out wrong. I use brakes big time W2W, I hardly touch them tracking and run faster lap times tracking than I ever did W2W, unless I was out in front and could run the line.

There is almost always a single, fast line thru a turn - especially when you look at a turn as being from the time you enter it to the time you enter the next turn, not just the exit of the turn. Some guys with big power can use the throttle to make other lines work, but almost always the fastest line is the smooth line using momentum, not the go pedal, to get around it and make sure you exit fast, especially into stretches as in this case for both turns I mention, as 2mph out faster than everyone else means you can carry that 2mph extra the whole length of the next stretch. I would allow a pass on a tight turn into a straight to hit the straight right as I will pass you and leave you back a car length by the next turn carrying 2 more mph. Spec classes are where you can really see this work (like "Wreck" Miata) - watch the guy in front and he usually can enter the straights just a little faster and carry it all the way down, passing a couple guys or increasing his lead in those stretches, with only 2mph more than the others.

It is better to learn that line, then detour only in W2W for position. If you can get out front tho' you want to know the fast line...


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