ultimate pro touring car discussion?
 

Anyone in?

after reading prodigy's build thread I wondered what everyone would build if the time and money was available.

body, engine, gearbox, suspension, aero etc.

for inspiration

I wonder what the guys that build F1 cars or professional suspension engineers would come up with?

It's sitting in my garage....:unibrow: I wouldn't change anything.

I would build my car.. same suspension, engine, trans, rear..

I would swap the shocks to Penske double adjustables.. simply the best out there if money isn't an option. I would do a few body mods.. not many though since I like the Camaro's classic lines.

BUT.. with a new cage system (using cromol).. more CF and more aluminum to get the weight down. I would also rebuild the dash to get rid of all my gauges except the STACK unit.. again, for weight savings. I have no desire for ABS, tracktion control, or other "complications"

I would rather have less weight than more power any day..

no full IRS or spaceframe chassis?

John Beardmore's minor takes things just about as far as you can, this side of F1 technology

Gt1.....
 

My buddy has a retiring GT1 Oldsmobile. In fact...he is selling it and it got me thinking. If you could get a MSO title for this thing and then de-contruct the pure race aspect of it...and install some nice creature comforts it could be the ultimate car.

The brakes, axles, supsension...and handling of the car would be superior to any 60s car that is modified. Converting to doors that will open and close (as shells over the cage) with plent of carbon fiber close out panels...defrost...a/c...and much more.

I'd yank the race engine and install a LS and a T56. There would be ample room for tubros...or anything else. The sky is the limit on the re-body panels.

http://www.tropiczoneracing.com/imag....Race.Car1.jpg

http://www.tropiczoneracing.com/imag....Race.Car2.jpg

http://www.tropiczoneracing.com/images/Oldsdayw.jpg

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Fun thread...unlimited budget: I'd get Matt @ AME, Mike Norris, Frank in a room with a blank sheet of paper. I'd tell them to make a full frame 68 Camaro that is the baddest thing ever. I'd call Nelson and tell them to prep the biggest cube NA LS motor ever conceived, maybe start with a World Products 454 aluminum block mated to a modified t-56. I'd call Tyler and tell him to drop everything - R&D me a full CF panel car. I'd make sure aluminum interior panels are used everwhere possible. Finally, I'd find a Indycar team to fab up as much duct cooling as could be packaged to the brakes, which would be Brembo CF rotors race all around. I'd probably have Fessler do the interior, as his 'velle is one of the nicest around. That'd be v1 of the plan....

I've been working on the same car for 35 years and it is interesting to track the evolution. I started with basically a street/drag car with a small block, and four major evolutions later ended up with a caged, full independant suspension, aluminum big block semi-street/ road race car. Over the years, most of the changes were aimed at improving suspension, brakes, and aerodynamics with a big emphasis on reducing weight, improving front to rear weight balance, and putting more rubber on the ground. As I became more successful in my career, I was able to buy and develop better parts -- 7075 aluminum replaced steel, etc. And its still changing! Based on my experience, I would have to say that what you think would be perfect today may look a lot different to you a few years down the road.

Pappy

I would call the Ring Brothers... :yes:

Mark Stielow's latest '69: Blue Bomber, Apex, Kompressor or whatever it's called. :yes:

Sounds like a solid plan! I'd let Nelson do a turbo if he wanted... maybe toss it to the Recovery Room for Interior.