Wayne Dues C4 front sub-frame
 

If you have one or have had to work on one please help me out.

I bought this thinking it was a real sweet deal, and would like to have been right.

I've heard from two sources that they are not great front subs, but I don't want to start jumping to conclusions because I'm not rich and I dropped a decent chunk of change on it lol.

I believe the Mule has one, and it certainly has been tracked and responds well. However, I believe Mark Stielow changed the rack and it's location which is the biggest issue with his subframe and it's inherent bumpsteer issues. Moving the rack requires engine placement changes also which is why Wayne never changed it.

Jody

Had one, not a fan. ALOT better choices out there. Heck stock frame with DSE speed kit was better for me.

Since Wayne made several versions - I'm thinking it might depend on which one you have. I had the version with all C5 components... he also had a C4 version - and his first one had tubular A arms... Not sure about the bump steer - and whether or not this was still an issue with the C4 and C5 arms etc... so just tossing this out. Bump steer can be dialed out somewhat as well... but of course, not if you can't get the steering arms parallel with the lower A arms... which might explain Mark S moving the rack etc.

I've got the C4 version.

I'd like to get a hold of the mule. If making this one work would be cheaper than buying a new one I'm all for it.

As mentioned in the other thread, and here. It mostly has to do with rack location.

The early Art Ramnison Sp? was worse then the later Wayne Due, but still one big compromise.

I am with Stuart, I would rather have a modded factory subframe.

all hope is lost :(

If you talk nice maybe Stielow will clue you in on what needs done. I'm sure he made it servicable. I'm sure Charlie or Jody could pull a string. :unibrow:

:yes: :yes:

Yeah I spent the money on this one already, so I'm going to stick with it. Clearly it can be made to perform. Going wide open throttle on a track is all I wanna do with it.

I sent Stielow a PM, hopefully he can help me out. I would love to see what I have work.