Put up or shut up..... bench racers!
 

New to the hobby (2 years) and about 75% of the way through my project. I've been reading these forums, started w/ PT.com, for about 3 so thanks for getting me into this great hobby.

As of late, I've noticed there's a lot of b.s. about how this suspensions kicks a** and this one sucks.... unless you're just a street guy blah blah blah. Oh those brakes are ok, if.... etc. I'm interested in who here has really had an opportunity to drive a well tuned version of more than 1 or 2 setups? Seems most buy a car, the suspension is old and worn, buy the new greatest things and their car is the best (as long as everyone on the forum agrees). I bought into this at first, but more I've learned, a lot of it is starting to seem like bench racing to me. Like my girlfriends little ricer brother and his friends. Don't get me wrong, a lot of people here have a wealth of true knowledge, and I appreciate the technical insights I find here that lead me to research different ideas. I just think that because of the expense of this hobby and the limited experiance resulting from not having 20 cars, comparing one setup to another is b.s. unless you have experiance, not just theory to base it on.

So point being, when is the lateral-g, pro-touring group showdown gonna happen? There's a whole lot of you guys fairly close together on the west coast, why don't you guys get together and really see what's what, go out and flog 'em, race 'em, trade 'em for a lap or 2. Sort of like that RSE, Chris Kerr's car was sweet, and my inspiration.... wasn't intentional that my ebay bought car is the same color. Point is he brought it out and exposed his setup, ran it to show what it could do; didn't sit on the net and explain why it was better, or why the other guys is worse.

I know you guys don't rudely bash, however you know when somebody says "no offense but...." it's still an insult.

When/where's the next RSE style get together for the lateral-g crew? When are you guys gonna put some proof behind these millions of posts?

ok..this has been talked about PLENTY. I think Scott could probably appoint someone to head this up and have it happen sometime next year. I know the V8TV guys were looking for something similar to cover..Just please dont mention the "P" word. :wow:

I will line em up..........just let me know when!!!! I have several friend's willing to participate too. I wouldn't put it on scott, just through up a date and if it is within traveling distance, i will put up..

Don't really think lateral-g is based on racing, it is more based to building and style, but there are a few of us that will build and hopefuly get some style, yet race em.

I may talk gibberish, but i don't talk ****, so let's get it on. :rofl:

I had the Regional Executive of Land O' Lakes Region of the SCCA contact me in regards to putting on an event at BIR (Brainerd). You're more than welcome to come and participate. :)

And you're right about bench racing. That's what online car communities are all about - a resource for enthusiasts.

EDIT: I forgot to add that there are two RSE winning cars featured here on the site. :thumbsup:

Welcome. :)

:wow: :faint: WHEN??? :willy: :unibrow:

Welcome Mikamaro to the best site on the net. Thanks for your post. By the number of your posts, you are the "New Guy". You have a great idea and obviously, you have a car with a terriffic set up you wish to exploit. So do I. its in a box waiting for me to set it up. Note I said "BOX" singular as to extascentually (sp) mean boxes. I just mean my garage as a box, if you will. Why is my project not done...hmmm...I have one son in College and one daughter is a senior about to go to College. Oh and there is that wife thing and my 11 year old. I work 60 hours a week and sometimes, I just lift the garage door, breathe in and out 4 or 5 times, and let the door back down. I have more people pulling on me that I care to share. Now you want to pull too. I have great advice for you. Take initative. You obviously have internet access and can type. Take this opportunity and use your youthful energy and make calls and set this thing up. I think you have a great idea. make it happen. I will bring my set up unpainted and as rough as a night in jail. Give me some lead time though, as I am like the Russians used to be, I don't take a dump with having a meeting first, so I will need time to plan. God knows folks might starve if I am gone for more than a week. But I strongly suggest you take time and plan this thing and I'll show up.

Oh and Welcome to the site. :thumbsup:

Mikamaro,

I'm with Jim ( hey bro ), set it up and have fun.

One post, pretty brash start dude.

With a post like that don't count on the "showdown" soon, to satisfy you.

I don't think most here would want to "trade em for a few" and go thrashing. I have more class than to ask "can I borrow the MULE, I want to go beat the piss out of it, be right back".

I do think this site is great, I play the alumin8r video at least once a week :drool: and I know people here can build great cars. I really would like to know if people have personally driven more than one style of suspension / subframe kit that has been setup well and what their opinions are, hopefully with some #'s to back it up.

There are some magazine guys on this site, can we hit on some of these frame/subframe guys to set up their own cars and bring to a showdown / testdrive? Wayne Due vs. Detroit Speed vs. Art Morrison vs. 21st vs. Martz vs. Alston Chassiworks( front and new wierd rearsetup everyone disses) vs. CARS vs. Air Ride Specialties vs. Hot rods from Hell(truck arm rear?)..... maybe at Hot Rod Power Tour, I would even pay to drive each of these cars, 1-2 laps w/ them driving and 2-3 laps yourself. 9 cars ~$450, sounds great!

Ummgawa - I do not have a terrific setup but I do like to thrash it and I do feel your pain buddy, my project may be 75% done, but it's also probably at least a year+ from being finished. I work overseas 320-330 days a year, 7 days/12 hours + so I get approx 2 weeks over xmas to take my car apart, a lucky day or two here and there in the spring, and then 4 weeks in the summer. This means I put my mess back together for 2 weeks and try break it the last 2 :yes: . No kids or wife as of yet, so when I am home, it's full time in the garage.

Well stated Stuart, to call out the entire Lateral-g/PT membership with your first post may not get the response that you desire. But after all is said and done an event like the one your proposing is an excellent way to get those hardcore guys to lay down the law. Oh yeah and welcome to the site!