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Pasquale 10-02-2011 04:02 AM

69 Camaro Pro Touring Brake Size???
 
hey guys, I am working on a 1000hp 69 Camaro I will be mainly driving on the street and was wondering what would be the best brake set up to go with. I have no idea how well Wilwood brakes work and wanted to know if 12" rotors were good or do I need to go bigger? I was thinking about buying a kit that has 13" rear and 12" front with 4 piston calipers. Or should I go all out and get the 14" front and rear with 6 piston calipers?

hifi875 10-02-2011 06:14 AM

Why would u not go with 14 all the way around? You have 1000hp. If you r goin over the top w your engine then why not with the brakes. Not to mention it can't hurt anything. The level of performance needs to match.

Spiffav8 10-02-2011 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by hifi875 (Post 372094)
Why would u not go with 14 all the way around? You have 1000hp. If you r goin over the top w your engine then why not with the brakes. Not to mention it can't hurt anything. The level of performance needs to match.

I agree 100%. Easy to get moving with 1000hp, might want some serious stopping power to help tame that sucker when needed.

Todd (Vegas69) has a decent setup. Willwoods I think. I was impressed how well his breaks helped reel in all 666 horses pulling PayBack along.

:captain:

Pasquale 10-02-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spiffav8 (Post 372100)
I agree 100%. Easy to get moving with 1000hp, might want some serious stopping power to help tame that sucker when needed.

Todd (Vegas69) has a decent setup. Willwoods I think. I was impressed how well his breaks helped reel in all 666 horses pulling PayBack along.

:captain:

Thanks guys. I will go with the big brakes, I just wanted to get some opinions. I just have one more questions. Is there a big difference from 4 piston to 6 piston?

thanks

ccracin 10-02-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasquale (Post 372158)
Thanks guys. I will go with the big brakes, I just wanted to get some opinions. I just have one more questions. Is there a big difference from 4 piston to 6 piston?

thanks

Just 2 pistons! :rofl: Sorry, I had to!

Flash68 10-02-2011 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasquale (Post 372158)
Thanks guys. I will go with the big brakes, I just wanted to get some opinions. I just have one more questions. Is there a big difference from 4 piston to 6 piston?

thanks

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Originally Posted by ccracin (Post 372170)
Just 2 pistons! :rofl: Sorry, I had to!

and the price! :lol:

Vegas69 10-02-2011 08:40 PM

Go with the biggest front brake you can fit. Rear isn't near as important.

Matt@BOS 10-02-2011 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas69 (Post 372199)
Go with the biggest front brake you can fit. Rear isn't near as important.

Todd, do you ever wish you had bigger brakes? I don't recall whether or not you lock up the fronts easily.

I was also going to say that your tire choice is going to dictate how well a car is going to brake.

Matt

Vegas69 10-02-2011 10:24 PM

My car originally had 14" rotors but Forgeline shaved the pad and instead of rehooping my wheels, I opted for a 13" rotor. The larger rotor is an advantage. It's hard to compare as I went from a 255mm 200 treadwear to a 275mm 100 treadwear at that time.

I rode in Casanovas car and he has small rotors and his car stops REALLY well. :thumbsup: Pad compound and pedal effort are also big factors. My car has a 1" master and manual brakes. At the end of the day at Buttonwillow, I had finally started treating my brakes like I was stomping on a bug. You have to be very agressive and it's hard to get used to after any daily driver. My car would benefit from going back to the 7/8 master or power brakes. Especially in autocross. The 1" was a bandaid for our best buddy, brake pad knockback.

Matt@BOS 10-02-2011 11:15 PM

That makes a lot of sense Todd. I've thought about going power brakes on a future project. I like my two individual 7/8" masters for hauling the car down from speed, but on the autocross it feels like an on-off switch. Trail braking feels a bit like guess work. On the street, I also miss that comforting initial bite that power brakes offer. I've had moments where people cut in front of other cars, stopping traffic, and creating an "oh sh-- moment." I stopped just fine because I'm used to really slamming on the brake pedal, but it is a weird feeling that takes getting used to.

Pasquale, I don't know what the Wilwood equivalent would be, but I think a DSE booster with C6 PBR big 2 piston brakes, and the right pads would work just fine for stopping the car. There are certainly better brakes out there, but I don't know how much any of them would improve single instance stopping distances, especially with street tires.

Matt


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