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Bill71 10-16-2013 10:38 PM

When does a dry sump become necessary?
 
I am building a 71 Camaro as a dedicated track car. I'm using 275/35-18 up front. I was considering an LS3 but mynresearch says they have oil control problems using the factory wet sump. Will my car with 275 tires create enough cornering force to cause oil starvation?

clill 10-17-2013 06:15 AM

If you want to run a wet sump but are worried about oil starvation a easy option would be a accusump.

http://www.accusump.com/

It will keep you from losing pressure during a long corner etc.

GregWeld 10-17-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 511057)
If you want to run a wet sump but are worried about oil starvation a easy option would be a accusump.

http://www.accusump.com/

It will keep you from losing pressure during a long corner etc.




Great advice Charley! The Lotus 2 Eleven even comes with one from the factory!

57hemicuda 10-17-2013 06:17 PM

My answer to that would be: When your sh*t blows up.LOL

GregWeld 10-17-2013 08:27 PM

So I'm no expert on any of this -- but I went to the Lotus dealer today to get some info and some parts --- the service manager seemed quite knowledgable and we discussed many things -- including the tires I planned to change to -- Hoosier R6's.... and imagine my surprise when he told me that if I was going to up the cornering capability that much (over the Yokohama AO48's) that I should consider changing the oil pan to a model that will control the oil better -- "even though the car comes with an Accusump".

My point in all that typing is that it apparently is a more complicated answer than just "should you or shouldn't you" run a dry sump.

What pan and how much oil control/windage do you plan to run... and what's the SUSTAINED corner loads etc.

Take turn 2 at Thunderhill.... where you're in that decreasing radius turn for quite awhile.... and if you can manage that corner at better than a G... maybe a dry sump should be under your Xmas tree. Maybe for running peanut course AutoX --- it might not be important.... and an Accusump would work fine along with a decent pan?

Bill71 10-18-2013 08:16 AM

All I have at this point is the car which I bought as a shell. I have restored the body, added the wheels and tires (NT01s) and cage. I have no idea if it will exceed 1G or not. I was planning to use a trap door pan. Maybe the Accusump will be sufficient.

mdprovee 10-18-2013 09:27 AM

I have very little knowledge or experience, however I used a Champ Road Race pan on my engine. Have done a couple of the Run to the Coast events, and watched my pressure thru a few corners, and the pressure never budged. They have trap doors and holds 8 quarts.

Flash68 10-18-2013 10:45 AM

Based on what you have told us, for your setup (2nd gen, 275 series NT01 tires) I would not say you will be outhandling C6 Vettes with Hoosiers unless there is more to the story. Some of those guys are having problems with sustained high-G corners but not all of them.

I am a big fan and advocate of dry sump, but it is expensive and would not do it unless I deemed it absolutely necessary.

I think you would be fine with the accusump.

Until it blows up (hey, Ron said it first).

:D

Ben@SpeedTech 10-18-2013 04:08 PM

Maybe you could use this?

LS fabricated road race oil pans

Bill71 10-19-2013 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdprovee (Post 511272)
I have very little knowledge or experience, however I used a Champ Road Race pan on my engine. Have done a couple of the Run to the Coast events, and watched my pressure thru a few corners, and the pressure never budged. They have trap doors and holds 8 quarts.

Would this be an LSx or a SBC?


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