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Code510 08-04-2014 02:39 PM

Calling all pool experts...
 
Hey all,

I bought a house a few months back with a pool. Never owned a house with a pool before. It's been quite the learning experience. I'm determined to figure it all out by myself instead of paying for a weekly/monthly service.

While my chemicals have been in check, I can't seem to keep the damn thing clean. There's an excessive amount of dirt that settles/builds up on the bottom of it every week. WAY too much.

I don't know the terminology here, so bear with me...but it has the canister filter, with individual filters in there that are radius in shape. It does take the diatomaceous earth. I've taken the filters out, hosed them off, hosed out the canister, put in new DE, everything. But it's still pumping a lot of dirt back into the pool.

For example. This first shot, I turned on the filter, and swept this half of the pool, the shallow end. The filter ran for a few hours after this. I didn't sweep the deep end, as to not disturb that sediment.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...psnmi1swxh.jpg

Came back a few hours later, and this is how it looks:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...psyvevbgzg.jpg


Obviously, something is wrong with my filter. I'll have to take some pictures of that tonight. Anything popping out to anybody what might be wrong? All the wings of the filter looked like they were in great shape, no tears or rips.

Thanks for the help!

cluxford 08-04-2014 02:47 PM

repeat the process but remove the filter, see what happens.

I replace my filter annually. It gets thoroughly hosed out monthly

I also run a vacuum for 2-3 hours in winter and around 4-5 hours in summer

Pool remains spotless.

BTW is it a concrete or fibreglass pool ?

Reason, fibreglass are much much easier to maintain. Chemical balance is more easily retained and also they tend to stain less and have less mould growth.

Having had both and having fibreglass now, I'll never have another concrete pool.

dhutton 08-04-2014 03:06 PM

It looks like your DE grids are worn out. When they wear out the DE can pass through them. At least that is my guess based on your description. Post up a picture of your filter. How are you adding the DE?

Don

Code510 08-04-2014 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cluxford (Post 563983)
repeat the process but remove the filter, see what happens.

I replace my filter annually. It gets thoroughly hosed out monthly

I also run a vacuum for 2-3 hours in winter and around 4-5 hours in summer

Pool remains spotless.

BTW is it a concrete or fibreglass pool ?

Reason, fibreglass are much much easier to maintain. Chemical balance is more easily retained and also they tend to stain less and have less mould growth.

Having had both and having fibreglass now, I'll never have another concrete pool.

It's fiberglass. Not that I have experience, but I have noticed the chemical end of this is cake. The filter is set to run 6 hours each night. Not sure if that's right. I was researching that it needs to run long enough to cycle the water in the pool two times. Is that correct?

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 563989)
It looks like your DE grids are worn out. When they wear out the DE can pass through them. At least that is my guess based on your description. Post up a picture of your filter. How are you adding the DE?

Don

They very well could be. They look like they are in great shape, but who knows how old they are. I'll get some pictures of that tonight or tomorrow. But that would explain too why I'm seeing a lot of DE in the bottom of the pool.

I added the DE into the skimmer, with the filter running. That's what the instructions said to do on the box. Is that correct?

I did notice that the very first time I took the filters out to hose them out, they had a nice, uniform layer of DE. After I did that, I added DE to the skimmer. Fast forward a few weeks or so, the pool wasn't getting cleaned so I popped the lid off the canister. All the DE seemed like it was at the top of the elements, not very uniform.

Thanks again for the help!!

dhutton 08-04-2014 04:33 PM

Do you have an automatic pool cleaner?

Yep, add it to the skimmer slowly.

Don

Code510 08-04-2014 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhutton (Post 563999)
Do you have an automatic pool cleaner?

Yep, add it to the skimmer slowly.

Don

I don't, but want to invest in one.

Speaking of cleaners and skimmers....how should I have the water flowing? Whoever cleaned/set up the pool before I moved in had it set to 100% skimmer. It's an older style skimmer where you turn the valve to active the main drain. I put it on 100% main drain while experimenting playing with the cleaning, which didn't work. Had it on 50/50 as well.

Does one setting work better than another?

dhutton 08-04-2014 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Code510 (Post 564006)
I don't, but want to invest in one.

Speaking of cleaners and skimmers....how should I have the water flowing? Whoever cleaned/set up the pool before I moved in had it set to 100% skimmer. It's an older style skimmer where you turn the valve to active the main drain. I put it on 100% main drain while experimenting playing with the cleaning, which didn't work. Had it on 50/50 as well.

Does one setting work better than another?

I run 100% skimmer but I have a pool cleaner. Not sure what is best otherwise.

Pools are a giant PITA in my opinion.... :lol:

Don

Che70velle 08-04-2014 10:12 PM

I built my pool 11 years ago. It's a DE filter kidney shaped money sucking second job, that I hate, and if it weren't for my 10 year old son, I'd have filled in with a bunch of old engine blocks and parts along with some top soil, and started me a vegetable garden. I spent 4K this spring on the pond, for needed repairs.
Having vented, and said that, what you have on your pool bottom in that picture is DE powder. What you need to do now is figure out how it's getting through the filter elements, which I'd guess, is through a tear or two in the elements.
I've threatened twenty five times to sell my house because of my stupid pool, which is a really great thing to have, for me, twice maybe three times a year, when in get to actually jump in it and enjoy it. Been in mine twice this year, both times after dark, due to no time to enjoy life anymore. Man I wish I hadn't seen this thread...

ErikLS2 08-04-2014 11:53 PM

I've always wanted to have a pool at home.............until now

Vegas69 08-05-2014 08:02 AM

A couple other things. I had a diaphragm failure in one of my filter housings and it let some of the water return unfiltered. I believe the filters rest on top of it. Without a automatic pool sweeper, it will get dirty fast with any wind. Your pool should be filtering 8 hours a day this time of year.

I'm with these guys. Pools are a money pit. Wife had to have one...:lol:


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