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DBasher 08-09-2014 01:17 AM

Can we talk about this?
 
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What's the deal?

chetly 08-09-2014 08:26 AM

What do you want to know?

DBasher 08-09-2014 11:52 AM

Everything! I've seen a few photos of what I guess is a prototype but not much is being said.

LCA mounts and crossmember?
Shorter spindle?
UCA mounts?

It's all new and not like anything else thats out. If you're one of the designers...what's the deal?

Dan

chetly 08-09-2014 12:44 PM

This is the brain child of Mike Maier and Craig Johnson. It's currently in pre production testing on Mike Maier's 66 coupe. Lower control arms are approx 3+ inches longer, uppers are 1 inch longer, roll centers are the same as current design, spring rate and role bars are softer car is almost twice as flat while cornering. Spindle is shortened allowing for a 315 to be run up front with a flared fender. It also allows for either a coyote motor or the Roush Yates motor to fit between the shock towers. That's about all I know, when I see Mike later today, I'll tell him about this thread and he can chime in with what he wants to add and answer anymore questions.

Oh yeah, this suspension was not on the car when we had the car out at the OUSCI event at Laguna Seca. We have been testing the car at a couple of events and its looking promising. At the latest auto-x (Larry Park Memorial). Mike went out and was faster than Mary Pozzi's fastest lap on his first lap. Overall, got her by almost a second.

craig510 08-09-2014 05:03 PM

Chetly summed it up pretty well. The installation is similar to a Mustang II but with much better geometry. It uses slugs or spacers at all of the pickup points to allow for roll center and anti-dive geometry. The setup with zero slugs is great for the street and will work well for most drivers and conditions, however, if you want to tinker or the track/tire requires a different setup you can raise or lower the roll center, tweak the camber gain or add anti-dive.

The new shock towers add a huge amount of space in the engine bay and still maintains the structure of the unibody.
LS and tall deck Windsor motors will also fit but header selection has yet to be determined.

David Pozzi 08-09-2014 05:53 PM

Mike ran in CP, so I think he ran slicks, not 200 treadwear of CAM.
He was even faster on Sunday though.

chetly 08-09-2014 06:49 PM

Mike ran franks car in CP and his car for fun runs later on the Falkens.

Mike Maier 08-09-2014 11:19 PM

Craig and I apparently had too much time on our hands. The main goal was to make the car easier all around. Set up, Tuning, and most of all driver confidence. Oh yea.. Bigger motors too. The car has been hacked on with all kinds of special ideas that might not have been so special. So we thought we would give a new special idea a chance. This one isn't so bad if I may. The biggest thing I think is the confidence entering the turns. You can hammer the entrance with a ton less pucker factor. We are currently fitting it to a couple of cars sorting things out. It definitely is promising and even in it's early stages I'll say others are going to have a good time trying to get close to the performance of this set up. Just saying...

DBasher 08-10-2014 02:23 AM

Rad!

More pictures and video if you have them! Craig are you running something similar on your falcon? And is this something that would be available to be adapted to other cars...say like a 65 comet?

Dan

chetly 08-10-2014 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craig510 (Post 564774)
The new shock towers add a huge amount of space in the engine bay and still maintains the structure of the unibody.
LS and tall deck Windsor motors will also fit but header selection has yet to be determined.

No, no, no!!! No putting LS motors in Mustangs, or any other Ford...


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