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DannyG 10-12-2014 04:10 PM

LS Swap Vs. Procharged SBC
 
Alright all, I know this has been done before... Many times... But I'm curious as to what you all think I should do in my particular situation.

I've been pricing out an LS3/T56 swap and, as we all know, it ain't cheap! All said and done, I'm around $21-22k with a new 480 horse LS3 and T56 Magnum, and that's with a lot of shopping around (install labor included).

The other option I've been considering is throwing an intercooled P1SC on my existing 383, at around 6psi, and putting a TKO 600 behind it. Power output would be roughly the same as the LS swap and the cost would be closer to $12-13k. Hence, the temptation to go this route, even though I love the idea of running an LS in my car.

My Camaro is not a daily driver, by any means, nor will it ever be. However, for the few months a year I'll drive it (maybe 3-4k miles) I do want to be able to start it up, beat on it a bit at the track (auto-x and drag strip), as well as drive it wherever the hell I want without issues. I also want it to have that "Wow" factor when I pop the hood at shows, which I believe either would provide.

Bottom line, if money were absolutely no issue, I'd go the LS route... However, that's not the case. While I live fairly comfortably, by no means am I rich. However, as a respected and well-to-do friend of mine once said to me, and it resonated, "you only live once and should do what makes you happy - you can always make more money." Still, I find myself going back and forth with this decision... First world problems, right?!

Anyways... Help! What do you think I should do? I can't make up my mind; help me choose a path so I can move forward with one or the other. :thankyou:

Vegas69 10-12-2014 04:49 PM

You can get 450-475hp out of a 383 all day long with no pro charger. I vote to spruce up your 383 and put a t56 magnum behind it. As it sounds like money is a consideration or you wouldn't be asking. :thankyou:

WSSix 10-12-2014 06:52 PM

If your 383 isn't putting about 400 to the wheels now, you need to change some parts out. I intend to build my LT1 into a 383. It should easily put over 400hp and tq to the wheels when done.

With that said, no one gives whoop about a 383 SBC. Unless it sounds like a spawn of satan is in the engine trying to get out while you idle through the parking lot, it won't draw a crowd by itself. You'll need the blower or the LS3 to do that. So do you want something that people drool over or do you want a car that sounds great and puts a smile on your face when you mash the go pedal?

My path would be to build the 383 with maybe adding the blower if you really want to get squirrelly. I think they sound better than LS engines. I'd dress it up cleanly and just enjoy the drive.

DBasher 10-12-2014 07:02 PM

All the cool kids are running twins these days! I've got two buddies making the switch from pro chargers to turbos. Even a single turbo would be better than the P1SC. Shooooot, my dad's making 7lbs with a $400 turbo on an old Studebaker.

Just my .02

DannyG 10-12-2014 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 573844)
All the cool kids are running twins these days! I've got two buddies making the switch from pro chargers to turbos. Even a single turbo would be better than the P1SC. Shooooot, my dad's making 7lbs with a $400 turbo on an old Studebaker.

Just my .02

Ok, way off subject, but where in Renton do you live?! I grew up there...

DBasher 10-12-2014 07:16 PM

"In a van down by the River!"

I'm actually on the Cedar River just off MV hwy. The old house was near Doofer's, that wasn't going to work long term. :happy23:

Don't rule out a turbo or two, just sayin.

:thumbsup:
Dan

DannyG 10-12-2014 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DBasher (Post 573849)
"In a van down by the River!"

I'm actually on the Cedar River just off MV hwy. The old house was near Doofer's, that wasn't going to work long term. :happy23:

Don't rule out a turbo or two, just sayin.

:thumbsup:
Dan

Funny, I lived very close to you for years - Right by Hazen. :cheers:

Ok, back to the subject... I have built several turbo cars in the past and, while I appreciate the hell out of the power they help produce and love the sudden rush of reaching full boost, I'm shooting for something with a more consistent power band. Turbo lag always drove me nuts.

clill 10-13-2014 06:29 AM

Why does the LS3 have to be new ? Have you priced getting a takeout from a low mile car ?

XLexusTech 10-13-2014 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clill (Post 573907)
Why does the LS3 have to be new ? Have you priced getting a takeout from a low mile car ?

Yet to see one that made sence.. They are usually close to the crate motor price

speedjohnston 10-13-2014 07:25 AM

Are you looking for the power or just the 'wow' factor? Your small block with blower Pistons, the right compression and right cam Should make a lot more then 480hp. You can also pick up a used LS cheap, put a blower on that and make 550-600 at the wheels with out much trouble and expense. I can spit out many more options.... Lol. Oh the decisions.


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