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barrrf 03-27-2015 06:24 AM

Big Ford Ends or Brand New 12 Bolt
 
Ok, so on my Chevelle I wanted to do CTS-V brakes on the rear. Theyre fixed calipers so Id have to figure out to deal with pad knock back. I thought at first I could just do c-clip eliminators but from what Ive been reading the past few days the c-clip eliminators are more hassle than theyre worth. So the next best option I thought wouldve been to hack off the axle tubes and install the big ford ends - the only problem I have with that is my lack of trust for the local machine shops.

Currently, my car is Hotchkis Rear suspension components. They seem to be fine so Id like to keep them. Also, and this goes against what everyone else would do, I do NOT want to put floating calipers on. So with that in mind -

What would you do? Big Ford Ends on current 12 bolt? Buy new 12 bolt? Something else Im not thinking of?

Build-It-Break-it 03-27-2015 06:38 AM

I'd sell the 12 bolt and just buy a ford 9" or a floater rear end.

barrrf 03-27-2015 07:46 AM

Whats it worth? Fully functioning, posi, 3.42 gears.

Sieg 03-27-2015 08:31 AM

I'd do a little research and decode the stampings on housing so you really know what you have. That could add to the desirability of the unit for someone desiring a 'correct' restoration.

A local Craigs List search can give you an idea of local market pricing. Around here (Oregon 1-5 corridor) I saw prices anywhere from $500 to $1,500 and one for $2500 for a 12 bolt posi. The later was coded to a '66 Nova.

I'd guess $800 to $1,250 as an average, depending on how fast you want to turn it.

barrrf 03-27-2015 08:39 AM

Good call. I didn't think about checking the stamping.

Vince@Meanstreets 03-27-2015 01:07 PM

then there are these things:

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=49657

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthread.php4?t=48782

Build-It-Break-it 03-27-2015 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vince@MSperfab (Post 600286)

I was going to post those to but he wants to run ctsv rear brakes.

barrrf 03-30-2015 09:47 AM

According to Moser, the only problem with running their eliminators is that the aluminum block will flex and eventually leak.

So I took apart their block and reverse engineered it and am going to have 2 made out of steel (4340PH) - or stainless steel - which ever happens to be sitting around.

Thoughts on that?

SlowProgress 03-30-2015 09:17 PM

My Mark Williams C-clip eliminator always leaked on one side. I pretty much decided it was leaking where the bearing adapter squeezes the backing plate up against the axle flange. The adapter O-ring seals to the backing plate, but nothing seals the backing plate to the axle flange, unless you make a gasket or use sealer of some type. I finally gave up trying to make the leak go away and put Torino ends on this time around. Just make sure all the surfaces are clean and flat. Make sure the backing plate seals to the axle flange (which hopefully is straight). I guess if something is warped, the steel bearing carrier is more likely to pull it straight. I never really thought it was possible the adapter was flexing.

Sieg 03-30-2015 10:55 PM

Remind me why you need to eliminate the C-Clip axles?


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