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ADY 04-30-2019 12:41 PM

Insurance "Agree Value" vs. classic insurance appraised value
 
I'm trying to consolidate all my insurance policies and curious how much I can expect to get hosed by my insurance company (USAA) if I opt to add my 1968 Camaro to my existing policy vs. keeping my Hagerty 'agreed value' policy in the event of a total loss. Have any of you had your classic restomod totaled by your insurance and if so did you feel you got a fair payout? Realize this can vary widely based on the insurance company and their appraiser, but just trying see if in general people have got a decent valuation.

thanks,
-Adam

ilikeike 04-30-2019 01:52 PM

I don't see how you would ever want anything other than "agreed value" on a custom car/hot rod or a boat.

ADY 04-30-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ilikeike (Post 692302)
I don't see how you would ever want anything other than "agreed value" on a custom car/hot rod or a boat.

thanks, that's what my gut is telling me, just wasn't sure what more seasoned classic cars owners have experienced.

thanks!
-Adam

214Chevy 04-30-2019 04:17 PM

Doesn't most classic car insurance companies ask you how much do you want to insure the car for? Wouldn't that be "agreed value" so to speak? As long as it's not some outrageous amount like $250k for the super-builds, they don't ask for anything but 3-4 pics of the car from all sides/angles. If asking for a value of...let's say,$30K...then they don't ask for appraisal reports, receipts, etc. I insured my Camaro for $60k and they asked me what warrants that amount and to justify said amount. So, I emailed them a few receipts. At least this has been my experience with Grundy and Phoenix, a local company here.

im4u2nvss 05-01-2019 05:53 AM

I use state farm. Had to get appraisal then we used that number as our "agreed value". In the event of a total loss, they will pay out the agreed amount.

Musclerodz 05-01-2019 07:28 AM

I would stick with agreed value, but move away from hagerty. if you read the fine print, they would prefer you never drive your car. grundy is better than hagerty, I used safeco because they had no mileage restrictions.

214Chevy 05-01-2019 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Musclerodz (Post 692331)
I would stick with agreed value, but move away from hagerty. if you read the fine print, they would prefer you never drive your car. grundy is better than hagerty, I used safeco because they had no mileage restrictions.

Right!! I have Grundy on my Chevelle and Phoenix on my Camaro because they were cheaper than Grundy. LOL!!

ironworks 05-01-2019 08:59 AM

I have a customer with a super high end camaro built like 5 or more years ago by a fancy builder. It was super expensive.

The owner had some kinda insurance that he had to call and activate the policy when he drove the car. It had some mega hp twin turbo engine.

Well the car had been back to the builder quite a few times for repairs and redesign of some things. And this time it was back at the builder and they were out test driving the car and some how lost control of the car and it hit a guard rail and burned completely to the ground. Like unrecognizeable. A complete and total loss. SCARY

The owner was notified a day or so later and on the following Monday found out his insurance would not cover the car at all. Multiple reasons. So far the shop that was test driving the car in their possession had proper insurance but it has been a fight and of course the insurance company is looking for any way to reduce the value of the car. The owner of the camaro has been grilled by an investigator wanting to see if the owner of the car is hurting for money or anything they can find to lower the value or get out of paying the claim. The owner just wants his car back or his money back.

Its a terrible situation. And when the dollar amounts get really high so does the fight to pay the claim.

Do your home work and pay the money for the insurance you want. Insurance companies ideally would like you to pay your premium and they never have to pay the claim and when and if you have a claim try to get you to settle for the least amount.

camcojb 05-01-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by im4u2nvss (Post 692328)
I use state farm. Had to get appraisal then we used that number as our "agreed value". In the event of a total loss, they will pay out the agreed amount.

That is not true. You agreed to a number they use to set the cost of the insurance. It is NOT a guaranteed payout though, they can still look at comps and adjust accordingly. Look in your policy for the words "actual cash value".

State Farm doesn't have a true agreed value policy, it is stated value. Stated Value is coverage that reflects an amount that is “stated” at the onset of the policy. You tell your insurer what your car is worth (with proper documentation) and it is insured for that amount. The caveat here, however, is that the insurance company can choose to pay you either the Stated Value or the Actual Cash Value, whichever is less.

Alternatively, Agreed Value, coverage primarily offered by specialty insurers, is based on the proven value of your car as determined by you and the insurance company, according to appraisals, photos, or other relevant documentation. With Agreed Value coverage, the insurance company will guarantee that they will pay this agreed-upon value in the event of a covered total loss.

BMR Sales 05-01-2019 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 214Chevelle (Post 692308)
Doesn't most classic car insurance companies ask you how much do you want to insure the car for? Wouldn't that be "agreed value" so to speak? As long as it's not some outrageous amount like $250k for the super-builds, they don't ask for anything but 3-4 pics of the car from all sides/angles. If asking for a value of...let's say,$30K...then they don't ask for appraisal reports, receipts, etc. I insured my Camaro for $60k and they asked me what warrants that amount and to justify said amount. So, I emailed them a few receipts. At least this has been my experience with Grundy and Phoenix, a local company here.

Depending on the Company, when the Amount is discussed, it could be "Agreed" or "Stated" value and that needs to be clarified. Agreed is the only way to go.

As far as claims go, I had a Claim on a Totaled Car about 15 Years ago. I got the Total Agreed Value.


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