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tracy 10-13-2006 03:35 PM

Water/Methanol Injection
 
I am looking for experience and opinions on the use of Water/Methanol Injection as an alternative to intercooling for a super charger application.

I have run across this company Coolingmist which seems to have an interesting product.

It certainly looks like more trouble to deal with on an ongoing basis than intercooling but it is small and less expensive and seems to be fairly effective.

-Tracy

camcojb 10-13-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tracy
I am looking for experience and opinions on the use of Water/Methanol Injection as an alternative to intercooling for a super charger application.

I have run across this company Coolingmist which seems to have an interesting product.

It certainly looks like more trouble to deal with on an ongoing basis than intercooling but it is small and less expensive and seems to be fairly effective.

-Tracy

Works great. I used it on the yellow Procharged 540 and my friends Procharged 406, both pump gas and no intercooler. I've also used them on my Lightning and twin turbo GTO which were intercooled. Still allowed more boost and timing on pump gas which was more power.

I've used the following kits which worked well:
http://www.devilsownonline.com/

http://www.snowperformance.net/

http://www.smcenterprises.com/

Blown353 10-13-2006 10:03 PM

I run a progressive controller from Julio Don, but the Devil's Own controller is very nice... and he's taken the time to spec out the best pumps for the job.

If you set it up right it's basically maintenance-free (besides adding water as needed) as long as you use distilled water and have a filter before the pump to keep junk out of the nozzle(s).

Does it work? You bet. When datalogging my car, my intake air temp *drops* as boost increases; from 3 psi (water injection turn on point) up to redline (15psi) the IAT steadily drops because of the water injection. I'm going to keep the water injection even after I add an intercooler for the detonation supressing & cleaning effects, I'll probably just drop down on the nozzle sizes since I won't be relying on it to cool the intake temps so much.

Running water/methanol mix will yield more power but then you need to keep in mind methanol is corrosive to aluminum. I run water only for just that reason, it still provides the cooling effect and as an added bonus your intake runners, valves, and combustion chambers stay very clean from the steam. I'd much rather sacrifice a little bit of power compared to rotting out my .065" wall aluminum pipes from the SC to the throttle body.

ProTouring442 10-14-2006 03:44 AM

I thought you could run that "de-ice" washer fluid in them? Then again, maybe that's methenol, I'm not sure.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
'72 442 "Inamorata"
www.fquick.com/ProTouring442

camcojb 10-14-2006 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProTouring442
I thought you could run that "de-ice" washer fluid in them? Then again, maybe that's methenol, I'm not sure.

Shiny Side Up!
Bill
'72 442 "Inamorata"
www.fquick.com/ProTouring442

that is a mixture of methanol and water, so it can be run. The first two I did were straight water and worked very well. The last two have been ethanol which gives extra fueling, an octane boost, and not as corrosive as methanol. Denatured alcohol is what it's usually called. Only disadvantage is it's more expensive than methanol, but it was only costing me $1.50 or so per tank of gas, so the cost was pretty much a non-factor.

Jody

tracy 10-14-2006 10:42 PM

Thanks for the input. This was quite helpful. I just don't see anyone on these boards talking about this technology but it seems like a very viable way to go.

ohcbird 10-14-2006 11:28 PM

water inj
 
I use a small setup on my supercharged 4Runner (a 93 with a 98 3.4 in it). Works great, allows more timing and boost... not that I really need it.

speedshopmike 11-07-2006 04:38 PM

look at Snow's injection units; they're quite excellent

tracy 11-07-2006 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by speedshopmike
look at Snow's injection units; they're quite excellent

Thanks. I will check it out.

nowwhat 11-10-2006 09:28 AM

I use FJO's units.....great product.....


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