Quote:
Originally Posted by ironworks
Heidt's, TCI and Fatman are all based off a suspension design from 30 years ago. The spindle is short, in most of the aftermarket mustang II kits there is no anti dive built into the suspension. The short length of the control arm also limits travel which mean you need a stiffer spring. Plus the camber gain is really fast due to short control arms. Plus they are just made withs maller tubing and therefore not as strong. There are alot of other popular suspensions that have gone by the ways side due what is currently avalible. The C4 corvette stuff, why would you ever run that stuff when the price of a replacement ball joint is more then a brand new control arm with ball joints and bushings and the A arm. The avaliblity of the brakes for the C6 out numbers the C4 10-1.
Technology has come a long ways in the past 10 years and you can see it in the products that are currently avalible on the market. The Mustang II design is like the Small Block chevy it still has its place but there are much better coices to made for the money.
Heidts may have some new products coming out that will set the world on it's ear, but they will ahve to be proven the days of having and old car that has updated suspension that drives like crap are over with, with as far as the bar has been raised in the past 10 years.
|
I think the Heidt second gen will change some minds, but it will take some time. Their second gen sub uses a taller spindle and works very well. I don't recall what the difference is between their second and first gen subs is. I'd rate a DSE sub as my favorite, I like Morrisons sub a lot, as well as the 21'st Century sub in Bad Penny. Jake's sub is doing very well. The Speed tech sub can use stock parts or aftermarket parts for a stock sub. Could save you money if you already have purchased some A arms, etc.
I do like a modded stock sub and will probably use one on my 67 which I'm finally working on this year. I think the only issue on a stock sub is how wide a front tire you will run and how much modifying you want to do on the inner wheel wells to fit them. On a first gen Camaro, a 275/17 can be fit, CarlC did it, but he runs a very streetable ride height. On a much lower car, It might not fly. A 69 Camaro has 1" to 1.5" more width so maybe more leeway to get it done. If you are happy with a 245 front, then the stock sub is an easy route, but that size tire is going to cost you a little time on the track or autocross, - a few tenths. For competition use, a sub with easily accessable coil over shocks, and splined end antiroll bars is a plus. Light weight spindles and A arms help both on the street and track, but the driver and a lot of other things will make more difference.
Mary did like the Heidt Camaro a lot, it was easy to drive and went fast, it felt a lot like the DSE car. Mary didn't like the feel of the steering box Heidt used.
David