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Originally Posted by Derek69SS
I agree to a point, but I think a "bolt-on" would have to bolt to the original frame or subframe. If Art Morrison built a full C6 vette chassis for a chevelle, I couldn't set my body on that frame and call it a "bolt-on". To me, a bolt-on suspension would retain the stock frame/subframe with minor mods and strengthening allowed, and anything goes as far as what's bolted to it such as control arms, spindles, brakes, etc.
Also, All cars should run the same street tires and chassis settings throughout the competition.
*edit for clarification* allow any street legal tire you want, but can't change tires for different competitions. You use the same 4 tires for the entire event... choose wisely, they need to perform in all aspects; drags, cornering, and ride quality.
I'd like to see something set up like RSE, but do it like this:
Car Show - 10% of the points - judge fit, finish, quality, etc. don't judge styling, that's too subjective, so a well done Gremlin with a plaid interior rolling on Keystones can score better than a poorer quality but tasteful '69 camaro
50 mile drive - 30% of total points - points taken for items that don't work, such as wipers, radio, etc. 2 points taken for each gallon of gas used. Judges ride with (and take turns in each car) scoring their ride quality, noise levels, and comfort. Take interstate, costant speed of 70mph
1/4 mile drag-race - 30% of points - scores based on the average of your best 2 of 3 runs.
Road Course - 30% of points - scores based on the average of your best 2 of 10 laps.
If you don't compete in one competition, you get 0 points for it. If you break down, or don't finish one of the competitions, you get 0 points, and are DQ'd for points in the remaining competitions.
The points system would be just a way to make some interesting magazine coverage, the real purpose of the event is to meet, have fun, and see how your car performs compared to some other members' cars.
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Sorry, but all that's gonna happen is make this all waaaaay too comlpicated, just keep it simple, these aren't race cars, they're YOUR street driven pride & joys. Run what ya brung!! You can't differenciate between bolt on & non bolt on 'cos then you gotta differentiate between engine size, tyre size, wheel tub size, suspension upgrades,wheel size, brake size, vehicle weight etc etc, where does it all end ??? Besides the great leveller is the big nut behind the steering wheel
.You might have THE best set up car in the world, with ALL the bits, but you might get blown away by a car with next to no bits but with a hotshoe behind the wheel!!............Keep it simple, this is supposed to be a fun thing, it doesn't matter if you don't win 'cos the other guys got bigger, better faster this that 'n the other !!
As to the car show thing for points, this is REALLY a personal subjective thing & wouldn't work & could cause an AWFUL lot of bad feeling, same applies to the judges taking turns to ride & find out ride qualities, wind noise etc, who cares ???? It's YOUR pride & joy no one elses!! For this to work you gotta look at why you're doing it........because you wanna have some fun & see what YOUR car will do,.... period !!!, You can't compare cars' performances 'cos there are just TOO many variables & you'll never know if it's your, brakes, suspension or whatever that make the difference. The only way to ascertain what works best on a car is to change one component on your car at a time, but of course we can't do that can we?? So treat it for what it is, to show the world what YOUR car can do, all in a Run What Ya Brung way, just hope you've brought enough !!!
