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Originally Posted by Sparky67
It is possible that one of DSE customers bought one of their engines, but DSE usually buys their engines from Wegner Motorsports. The Callies crank that Mast Motorsports uses is Callies Compstar crank and is manufactured overseas (?) and ground in the US. Callies Dragonslayer is made in the US and ground in the US. Personally, I perfer to have US steel crank and ground in the US. Another problem is that Mast Motorsports uses the 4.1" crank. Which means that you can't use NOS or boost on the engine. The reason being that the pin is moved up higher into the piston to the point where the crown is getting too thin to comfortably handle the extra pressure. Has it been done? Yes. But the longevity/durability of that setup is definitely decreased! Even Mast Motorsports doesn't recommend boost be run on the LS3 Based 427 based off the 4.1" crankshaft. When I contact Mast Motorsports last year about building a custom engine for a supercharger, they was only willing to sell the engines that they build. They do not build custom engines. Otherwise the engine is good choice, the cost is very comparable to other engine builders.
Jeff
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Hi Jeff:
Thanks for the message. Your right this particular engine is NOT made for boost. Along with the compression being 11:1, I didn't want to get into the extra expenses with this Engine that boosted or NOS applications would require. I believe the 416 Race Prepped is what they would recommend for those types of applications.
They sell Hand made engines when you get to the All Forged versions. They are engineering and building Packages that are repeatable in the Crate Engine Market. They can do custom stuff for an extra expense, because of the R&D associated with it (That is what I was told), they are very thorough with their R&D so when they sell an engine they know it will be put together correctly and perform as specified in their information.
One of the Main things I liked about their products were all the things that are included with the engines they sell. When at Mast, all of the crate engines I was looking at didn't require me to buy anything to make the engines run and be in tune when installed. All the Harnesses, programing etc. is part of what you buy with their crate engines.
Many of the Crate Engine packages sold other places require the buyer to buy a Butt load of extra stuff to make it run.
As Far as Boosted applications, they are testing and engineering their Boosted series as I write this. I was in their shop a couple of weeks ago and saw one of them. It was beautiful (Maybe Someday). I'm looking forward to reading the results of it.
From what I saw crate Engines are their main business as of this writing. They offer Packages that are made for the person what wants an Engine to put in their car and drive without any fuss.
I want the parts that will make the engine perform at a specific level. Callies and Scat that are two of the brands they use, and as far as I can tell are good solid manufacturers.
When I can walk in to a business, be taken completely through their manufacturing area, Dyno Room, Inventory area, and have all my questions answered. Spend $13,000 and walk out with a dyno proven 600 hp package that I don't have to do any with, that suites me just fine.
For a Customer like yourself, they may not be the right choice for you, you know, "Different Strokes", but I haven't found anywhere the bang for the buck that they offered. If you know of some, even though it's after the fact, I would like to see their web site and the products they sell. I am always open to learning new stuff.
600 hp is a nice amount of power for just about any car we play with on this site, especially if you want to run on a track with it when you can, and have something that will have decent street manners. I'm sure the boosted engine package they are putting together will have gobs more power then this engine, but for the money this for me was a modest amount for an engine that will be a bitch to really use the power it already puts out on a road course.
For drag racing yes NOS is a great idea. I am wanting to really learn how to drive on a road course using the proper skills. I think I am after finesse more than just Brut Power, and for that, 600 ponies is plenty.
Please write back with your thoughts. I think our desires and final applications are just different. Also, please list the other places that have equal to or better complete packages for the money. I would like to bookmark them for the future.
Take care, and I look forward to hearing from you.
Best regards,
Ty