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Originally Posted by Marine71
Originally Posted by Bowtieracing
I love facts as well... And simple fact is ; more guns you have , more shootings you have. It has nothing to do how many people live in california. I guess there little bit more people in Europe.. and no problems with guns at all. That is a fact.
"I say this respectfully and mean no disrespect" Ill have to disagree with this statement.I know what you are trying to say but i think it is to broad of a statment. You have to look at who are the "shooters" are. Regardless of what state you are in.Look at the state of Montana. LOts of people have guns there. DOn't hear to much about that. How about Texas? Same thing... Just because you have alot of guns doesn't mean you are going to have alot of shootings. In reference to Europe .Europe has seen their fair share of shootings, Some seriously bad ones. Alot of blame goes to the media and what they report also. The laws in Europe are more strict and are more strongly enforced. We have DA's all around the country here that always wanna make a deal.The next thing you know BAM! they are on probation and back out. This is a fact! I have seen it. There is a Town in Utah that requires you to own a gun to live in it. Ask how many shootings they have? None...Majority of shootings occur in low income areas where people have no money. Most of them are stolen guns. When their are guns in these area there are drugs. Look at the FBI and your local PD statistics.
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I've done a few rides with the Las Vegas Metro Police Department and one thing that struck me as odd is the amount of and type of paper work an officer has to do. Mainly the fact that if the officer doesn't do things perfect the DA throws it out, considering it a waste of their time. Basically the DA is looking for the easy cases where most everything is done for them. I was also amazed how all the officers I rode with where on a first name basis with some of the thugs due to arresting them so many times. I'll tell you I have more respect for police officers after seeing what they deal with and go through on a daily basis. For anyone that doesn't feel it necessary to own a fire arm (and know how to use it through proper training) I would invite you to do a ride with the police department. Go at night and in the worst part of town. To chicken....sit in with a 911 call taker and listen to the calls that come in all night. Educate your self and see the reality. Maybe then we can all push to get the laws enforced, punishment served and put a stop to needless violence.
One last tid bit....if you think the cops are going to arrive to save the day just in the nick of time when that bad guy comes calling, you are sadly mistaken. Don't get me wrong they would love to be there and take care of things, but the reality is that they are busy fighting criminals in those places you avoid. The old saying of "It's better to have a gun in the hand than a cop on the phone" is true in a lot of ways. It is sad and I look forward to a time when I don't feel it necessary to have my guard up all the time.
People....don't be sheep.