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Originally Posted by tyoneal
To All:
Since two major after market sub frame choices have been discussed for him, can anyone with a stock subframe with Global West, UCA and LCA (I have been told that they were the best Control Arms on the Markets as far as Having the best characteristics built into them, for improved handling on a first generation F-Body), Stock Spindles, Bump steer adjusters, ATS Steering Box (The best Steering box), Hotchkis Front Sway Bar (Another one of the Better Item made), and the Wilwood 6 Piston 13 inch Brakes (Best Bang for the Buck for High Performing Brake Kits), Varishock/Penske or other good quality front shocks.
Also, what exactly is needed to be done to the stock sub frame to optimize it's performance. (Specify)
This option would be the least expensive choice of the three and possibly have only a negligible performance difference with the other two, one reason being that all the major parts hanging on the subframe are top quality.
Other than 20 mm or so tire width difference (Slightly greater than the width of two 9mm bullets) in which the tire will not rub against the body, frame, or steering components and still retain all of it's turning ability, and about 40 pounds or so of extra weight. (About two pizzas and 3 six packs a month) what do you really accomplish with an after market subframe? (Other than lightening your wallet a couple grand?)
The, "One Lap Camaro", from what I understand did a bang up job with a "Stock" subframe underneath it.
What is the real skinny on reason's NOT to go ahead and use the original Subframes other than what I have mentioned above. Surely a bit of weight, and an inch of tire isn't all there is between them other than looks?
Thanks,
Ty
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While I'm not sure I agree with your "best" parts list, until James and Steve agree that, say, David Pozzi can run the One Lap Camaro and Bad Penny on the same track, back to back, we'll not have a very good answer.
One Lap - Stock subframe, rewelded, ATS coil-over set up, tubular control arms, ATS spindles, ATS steering box, Baer Trackers and ATS splined sway bar.
Bad Penny - 21st Century Street Machine subframe using coilovers, C5 control arms, uprights and hubs, AGR rack and pinion and a splined swaybar.
Both have LSx engines putting out well north of 500hp, both use T56's and the Lateral Dynamics 3 Link rear suspension. (That list tells you something doesn't it?) So far as I can determine, the only material difference (other than the obvious subframe difference) between the two is that Penny (I think) carries wider front wheels and tires.