I ordered the wheels with a reverse hoop and with the least amont of backspacing you could get them in which was like 3.75 on a 10'' rim I think. The local shop that ordered them for me did a set of 17x12's once for a customer, but naturally they had to be farmed out to get the hoops widened. My buddy that owns the local shop was good friends with Hoppy at American and could get about anything he wanted and fast , but Hoppy is no longer there.
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