x2 on the wimpiness.
We installed an EL set in the 69 Mustang vert project and they are very weak. You can actually hear the motors strain.
But to answer your original question, if you are going to install them, do it after paint. The window felts can not be installed untill after paint if you want a clean paint job and if the glass is installed without those you risk shattering the glass during transit. The installation is very easy and you wont have a problem doing it after the car is already painted.
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